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Rabbi Yoffie Excommunicates Pastor Hagee
The American Thinker ^ | April 04, 2008 | Richard Baehr

Posted on 04/05/2008 6:05:35 PM PDT by Salem

Rabbi Eric Yoffie, President of the Union for Reform Judaism, seems to think Israel has too many allies in America.  In particular, he believes that Israel can do without the support of evangelical Christians, and especially Pastor John Hagee, founder of Christians United for Israel.

At a convention of reform rabbis in Cincinnati this week, Yoffie lowered the boom on Hagee and urged Jews to no longer attend Hagee's series of "Nights for Israel",  which have helped raise tens of millions of dollars for the Jewish state,  and strengthened the connection between Jews and Evangelicals around the country.

Yoffie must think that the pro-Israel community has a lot of other places to turn for support in America.   Maybe he is foolish enough to think the mainline Protestant churches  will take up the slack. The problem is that while Evangelicals come to Washington to lobby Congress on behalf of  a strong US Israel relationship, the mainline churches are  busy passing resolutions calling for boycotts and divestment from Israel . 

Of course the very liberal Reform Judaism movement shares many  political belief systems with the mainline churches and their very liberal members.   So if Israel is thrown overboard by the Presbyterian Church USA, the United Methodist Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, The Episcopal Church in the USA, the Quakers, and the United Church of Christ, that is not enough to break any of those bonds of liberal fellowship they share with the Reform movement.

It is not hard to see in this relationship a similarity to the fraternity initiation of new pledges in the movie Animal House, with the Reform movement playing the role of pledges at the Omega House fraternity, and the mainline Churches as the upperclassmen. In one  scene in the film, a pledge named Chip, played by Kevin Bacon, is paddled by a sadistic fraternity member named Neidermeyer on initiation night, ,and after each pounding, shouts out: "Thank you, sir, may I have another!" Such are the bonds among liberals, and how easily Israel can be minimized as an issue.  Rabbi Yoffie,who has tossed aside the Evangelicals who support Israel,  perhaps believes more dialogue is needed between the Reform movement  and the Presbyterians and Methodists, and can help heal the wounds:  "Thank you for divestment, can we meet again?"

Of course there are plenty of members of Reform synagogues who care little for Israel and have the same blame-Israel mindset as the mainline Protestant Church leaders.  Ron Kampeas, who has made a career out of excusing and defending those who are unenthusiastic about Israel, mentions in an article on Yoffie that the Reform leader is in fact more pro-Israel than many of his members, most of whom probably can find dozens of political issues that move them more than the safety and survival of Israel. Some of Yoffie's members are embarrassed to have to defend Israel in polite company, and others are openly pro-Palestinian, and see no reason for an anachronism like a Jewish state to exist.

But the question arises: why did Yoffie choose to go after Hagee now?  After all, Yoffie, a man of not inconsiderable hubris, sought an invitation and then spoke at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University two years ago, signifying an opening to the evangelical movement.  The answer is not too hard to figure out. The Reform  movement is in some ways, a political movement  masquerading as a 501 C 3 tax exempt religious charity. This is a Presidential election year, and the likely Democrat nominee is Senator Barack Obama.  Members of the Reform movement vote, and Jews in general, tend to vote overwhelmingly for Democratic  nominees for President.  But this year, Obama has run into trouble among the pro-Israel community for his flirtation with Palestinian hardliners in Chicago in his years in Hyde Park, for his 20 year long  tie to Pastor Jeremiah Wright, who has given awards to Minister Louis Farrkahan, and blasted Israel regularly at sermons  and for a collection of foreign policy advisors, including Zbigniew Brzezinski, Samantha Power, Robert Malley and General Tony McPeak  who sound like members of a Jimmy Carter fan club or a Walt/Mearsheimer book club

Most American Jews do not support the candidate they believe is the most pro-Israel, but the one they think is the most liberal, which for all practical purposes is the Democrat. But for most American Jews, support for Israel is at least a threshold test, low as the bar may be set. And this year., Senator Obama is having trouble clearing that bar, even at the low level at which it is set. It explains why Obama, who has won big majorities among higher income, well-educated professionals in the primaries this year,  has lagged badly  among Jews with similar education/income characteristics. A poll of Israelis showed Hillary Clinton with 5 times the support of Obama. 

A few weeks back, Pastor Hagee endorsed Republican Senator John McCain for President. For years, evangelical Christian supporters of Israel operated outside the framework of mainstream Jewish organizations. But last year,  AIPAC, the most important group lobbying for a strong US-Israel relationship, invited Hagee to speak to 6,000 attendees at its annual Policy Conference in DC. Hagee repeatedly brought the crowd its feet with his speech, and the event signified that Hagee and his group, CUFI were now part and parcel of the pro-Israel community.  

With Obama as the likely Democratic nominee, and the Reverend Wright controversy still simmering, the Democratic Party and its subsidiaries (which is how the Reform movement behaves) need to change the subject. They have chosen to smear Pastor Hagee as part of that process. The charges are both familiar -- that Hagee is anti-Catholic and anti-gay, but also new -- that Hagee is damaging the "peace process" by being so hard line.  Surprisingly, the New York Times gave Hagee an opportunity to respond to some of the charges that have been hurled at him in this attempt at Democratic Party damage control ("we have one bad pastor, and so do you)".  

The new charge related to the peace process is interesting, in that it ties in with a comment that was made by Senator Obama in Cleveland   that being pro-Israel does not have to mean adopting the Likud Party agenda.  And that is what Yoffie accuses Hagee of doing -- of being uncompromising (like Likud), and hence opposed to peace. 

The sad history of the Israeli -Palestinian conflict is that it does not matter whether Israel is  compromising or  uncompromising; the Palestinian rejection is the same in either case. But Yoffie has now written out of the pro-Israel community anyone who is more skeptical than he of Palestinian intentions, or the wisdom of the current American "engagement" in the peace process.

When one acts as if he thinks of himself as the King of the Jews, as Yoffie appears to do at times,  such a stunningly ignorant and arrogant dismissal of the leader of a movement of tens of millions of pro-Israel evangelical Christians, is not hard to do.  Hagee has shown the humility to understand his place in all this: he is a pro-Israel Christian American. He understands that Israelis will decide Israeli politics, not his movement, and not Reform Jews. He does not have to like  the course Israelis may choose, and he can hope that Israeli politics shift in the direction he prefers in the future. But he is not the one who has written anyone in or out of the pro-Israel community. Rabbi Yoffie is the one who has done that.

Fortunately, his movement, and Yoffie himself, count for less and less each year. Demographic trends favor Orthodox Jews and evangelical Christians, while Reform Jews do not produce children at anything close to replacement levels. There is much for Yoffie to envy.

And maybe this year, If Barack Obama is the nominee, the Democratic Party's long stranglehold on Jewish voters will end.

Richard Baehr is political director of American Thinker.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: christians; evangelicals; hagee; israel; proisrael; yoffie
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To: Salem
Yoffie lowered the boom on Hagee and urged Jews to no longer attend Hagee's series of "Nights for Israel

He's such a nincompoop, he should realize that this will result in MORE support of Hagee.

A couple of years ago one of Yoffie's minions proclaimed a fatwa on Chabad, and ordered Reform Jews to boycott Chabad activities because they were "anti-Reform." This resulted in a huge increase of donations to Chabad from members of Reform congregations.

41 posted on 04/06/2008 6:51:10 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Ciexyz
An Orthodox Jewish friend of mine comfirms that the community likes Hillary

Why?

Even leaving aside her lifetime of pro-PLO activities is the fact that it's forbidden to vote for a pol who rejects the basics of the Noachide Laws, which every Democrat does.

42 posted on 04/06/2008 8:03:55 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Kol-hamishkav 'asher yishkav `alayv hazav yitma'; vekhol-hakeli 'asher-yeshev `alayv yitma'.)
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To: Salem
I'm in Jerusalem as I type this. In just four days of touring the country, I've seen at least three Hagee tour buses. The man has probably brought more money into Israel just by tourism than "Rabbi" Yosef has period.

Shalom!

43 posted on 04/06/2008 8:31:58 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Salem
American evangelicals are the best friends Israel has in the entire world. If Israelis like Yoffee don't want American Christians in Israel they should also demand that the US not stand with Israel in the UN or when she is attacked by her Arab neighbors.

Actually, I don't believe Yoffee's hostility to US evangelicals represents the majority opinion among Israelis in general.

44 posted on 04/06/2008 8:32:01 AM PDT by epow (If guns are designed and built to kill people by themselves mine must be factory rejects.)
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To: epow

Eric Yoffie is not Israeli.


45 posted on 04/06/2008 8:34:32 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Buggman

“Rabbi” Yoffie, sorry. Long week.


46 posted on 04/06/2008 8:35:22 AM PDT by Buggman (HebrewRoot.com - Baruch haBa b'Shem ADONAI!)
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To: Ciexyz
An Orthodox Jewish friend of mine confirms that the community likes Hillary and has severe reservations about Obama too.

I can't see why any Jewish community, Orthodox or non-Orthodox, should like either 'Rat. What compels them to remain identified with that party, other than an addiction?

Let's not forget that HRC has antisemitic and anti-Israeli baggage herself, including (1) her penchant for antisemitic remarks - as reported by several credible individuals, (2) her infamous kiss of Suha Arafat immediately after the latter's anti-Israel rant, and (3) the prominent position of Huma Abedin, a young Moslem woman from an Islamofascist family background, as a close friend and politcal advisor.

47 posted on 04/06/2008 9:17:11 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Salem

Richard Baehr’s piece is right on target. Rabbi Yoffie is nothing more than a Dummycrat politician who obviously prefers leftist interests to Jewish ones.


48 posted on 04/06/2008 9:20:22 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: ml/nj; firebrand; rmlew; dennisw; juliej; OldFriend; montag813; pabianice; Nachum; Yehuda; ...

Ping!

Please see my posts #s 47 and 48.


49 posted on 04/06/2008 9:43:31 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
Maybe you know from past posts of mine that I have attended a couple of Bar Mitzvahs at Yoffe's synagogue. I have very little respect for the man.

ML/NJ

50 posted on 04/06/2008 10:05:39 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Past Your Eyes

I am a Reform Jew and guys like Yoffie make it hard for me too.


51 posted on 04/06/2008 10:27:32 AM PDT by dalight
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To: GodGunsGuts

Actually, that ignorance used to exist. Now, as we learn more.. we like less what we see. Sometimes, Ignorance is bliss. Deadly, but bliss. Islam has not done well in the spotlight of Western Values and it basically cannot because man believers see it as even more opposed to those values than even Communism, and thats a stretch.


52 posted on 04/06/2008 10:30:42 AM PDT by dalight
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To: justiceseeker93; wagglebee; Cindy; ExTexasRedhead; Salvation; indylindy; JulieRNR21
He is excommunicating someone who is not even a member of his own church? He sounds more like a politically motivated busybody than a serious rabbi.
53 posted on 04/06/2008 10:50:14 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Those in the national Republican leadership do the work of three men- Moe, Larry, and Curly.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
He is excommunicating someone who is not even a member of his own church?

I believe that the word "excommunicates" is being used figuratively in this context.

He sounds more like a politically motivated busybody than a serious rabbi.

Agreed.

54 posted on 04/06/2008 12:25:07 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Alouette
Eric Yoffie is not Israeli.

Oops, my mistake. I have to learn not to skim over the article and then start typing with foot in mouth.

Nevertheless I still don't think that most Israelis feel hostile toward American evangelicals, but if they do they must not show it. The evangelicals I know who have gone on holy land tours have never had anything but good to say about the Israeli people who they met.

55 posted on 04/06/2008 1:29:18 PM PDT by epow (If guns are designed to kill people by themselves then mine must be defective.)
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To: Salem

BIG DITTO Salem.
Thank you Salem.


56 posted on 04/06/2008 1:38:27 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: montag813

This is close to a TOS violation. I am a Reform Jew and proud of it.. and frankly, it distracts from the issue and the dialog.


57 posted on 04/06/2008 1:44:13 PM PDT by dalight
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To: justiceseeker93

Its easy dealing with the URJ Politico’s. I just do the opposite of what they want.


58 posted on 04/06/2008 1:46:01 PM PDT by dalight
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Evangelist Hagee pledges $6 million to Israel

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Warning! This is a high-volume ping list.

59 posted on 04/06/2008 2:45:41 PM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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