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To: PerConPat
"The GOP majority has spoken, and my issue is now with that party. "

I don't understand what you mean by "GOP majority". Do you mean leaders of the RNC or the electorate? In general, I agree with your sentiment. We Conservatives got JM shoved up our collective arse, with no electoral input by at least 95% of the US Republican/Conservative electorate. In fact, many of the early primary states elections allowed independants and CROSSOVER DIMS. And by then, it was over, a done deal, ship it. Ninety-five percent of our electorate had no say.

550 posted on 03/31/2008 10:18:38 PM PDT by matthew fuller (United We Stand- Diversified We Fall)
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To: matthew fuller

“elections allowed independants and CROSSOVER DIMS. And by then, it was over, a done deal, ship it. Ninety-five percent of our electorate had no say.”

Here in lays our biggest problem. Which seems to be over looked by the infighting. Laws need to be changed as soon as possible to prevent a repeat. (I am one of the 95% that didn’t get my vote heard since the primary hasn’t happened yet in my state.)

We may not have the same end voting plan on this election but I hope All conservatives will join together and fight for our right to our Freedoms.


558 posted on 03/31/2008 10:29:50 PM PDT by ConfidentConservative (“I think, therefore I am conservative.”)
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To: matthew fuller

“elections allowed independants and CROSSOVER DIMS. And by then, it was over, a done deal, ship it. Ninety-five percent of our electorate had no say.”

Here in lays our biggest problem. Which seems to be over looked by the infighting. Laws need to be changed as soon as possible to prevent a repeat. (I am one of the 95% that didn’t get my vote heard since the primary hasn’t happened yet in my state.)

We may not have the same end voting plan on this election but I hope All conservatives will join together and fight for our right to our Freedoms.


563 posted on 03/31/2008 10:34:29 PM PDT by ConfidentConservative (“I think, therefore I am conservative.”)
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To: matthew fuller
I don't understand what you mean by "GOP majority". Do you mean leaders of the RNC or the electorate?

Speaking only for myself, what does it matter in the final analysis? The Conservative portion, base, contingent or anything else one cares to term it was not strong enough to deliver a candidate that meets my criteria for a Conservative nominee.

The calculus being presented in this thread, and of course in many others, is extremely difficult from which to obtain a prognostication as to what will transpire in Nov.. But no rational observer, IMHO, can miss the implication that Conservatives were not powerful enough to stop McCain. And my concern centers around that point.

As far as I'm concerned, the GOP is seriously if not fatally fractured. Perhaps McCain will work a miracle and bring the party back to the Right, but nothing in his past instills confidence. I completely understand the position taken by many that John is our only hope for now, but the arguments of those who fear that we are on the slippery slope to the Left are also compelling. I watch, and I wait.
566 posted on 03/31/2008 10:41:45 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: matthew fuller
I don't understand what you mean by "GOP majority". Do you mean leaders of the RNC or the electorate? In general, I agree with your sentiment. We Conservatives got JM shoved up our collective arse, with no electoral input by at least 95% of the US Republican/Conservative electorate. In fact, many of the early primary states elections allowed independants and CROSSOVER DIMS. And by then, it was over, a done deal, ship it. Ninety-five percent of our electorate had no say.

You're right about that.  Montana's GOP had it's caucus on Feb 5th, whereby the state's party bigwigs in the GOP got to vote, and those like myself had to stay home and wait for the results.  The Montana GOP effectively disenfranchised every single GOP vote in this state that, by large extension, is trending Democrat.

I just have to say, that the Montana GOP is about as inept and incompetent as the national party.

580 posted on 03/31/2008 11:44:40 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity)
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