Posted on 03/31/2008 8:36:23 AM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
None. Conservatism is a political philosophy, not a religion. On every single issue where McCain disagrees with me, the Democrats also disagree with me. On every issue where he agrees with me, the Democrats disagree with me. I am choosing the most conservative candidate available to me, which is exactly what I'd be doing if the nominee had been Hunter or Thompson.
You know, if you want to tell people they're wrong, that's great, but this whole "compromise your principles" thing just makes you guys look silly, like someone telling a sailor in a damage control party that he's a traitor to his shipmates because the ship won't be inspection-ready when he's finished patching up the torpedo hole. Right now the country has taken a hit, and people who don't want to do damage control because they might get their uniform dirty are looking pretty silly.
I like how you think.
Thanks for the post.
No offense, but I wonder why all the people like yourself aren’t busy helping conservative congressional campaigns instead of sitting around thinking up new ways to tell people they aren’t “real” conservatives.
Why should he worry about anything we believe if we vote for John McCain now. We already know what he stands for and if we vote for him we simply prove his point that we don’t have the guts to let the Republican party lose. If we are willing to vote for John McCain then as long as the party runs a nominee that is marginally less liberal than the democrat then the party’s political strategists can count on getting our votes. Basically we are playing a game of chicken and they are counting on the fact that we will blink first. So, I don’t hate McCain but I want him to lose so that we don’t establish a precedent that liberal moderates are electible.
Thanks! Seriously...ping me on the first Wednesday in Noveber and I’ll be ready to saddle up for 2012. Well, either that or ready to shoot myself after 16 months of this crap. :-)
You may well be right about that, if McCain loses. However, some people DO feel that if we sit out this election, then the RINO/President Bush/Ken Mehlman GOP will be so distraught that they’ll return to the principles of old, as happened under Clinton.
Others feel, as do I, that if John McCain wins he will push his censorship of groups like the NRA and Right to Life to its next logical conclusion...hate speech crimes like Canada has, where people are fined, thrown in jail or charged with crimes for expressing disagreement with homosexuals or Muslims.
They also feel that McCain’s censorship of groups critical to politicians will extend to the internet, and we’ll see forums like Freep shut down, fined or regulated for allowing people to voice dissaproval of politicians 60 days before an election.
They feel that if McCain is in charge when that censorship, such as we see in Canada, the UK and other countries throughout the world, that when it comes through a GOP president, no one in Congress in the GOP will fight it, whereas with Clinton/Obama the GOP would fight it tooth and nail, as it did not come from a sitting GOP president.
Regardless of why these folks are not voting for McCain, whether his loss will shake up the GOP or whether we will suffer less suppression of free speech under a president hostile to the GOP, (as the GOP will feel free to fight that suppression,) regardless of why others are not voting for McCain, I’ll tell you why I am not voting for him.
I simply cannot, and will not, ever vote for someone who wants to suppress free speech, for someone that wants to censor groups like the NRA and Right to Life so they cannot run ads supporting or opposing politicians during an election.
That, to me, is the most repugnant thing a politician can do...censor groups that want to exercise their 1st Amendment rights under the constitution, like McCain has done, and will continue to do as president.
I would rather see this nation completely fall apart than voluntarily vote for someone who wants to suspend or abrogate the constitution of the United States.
if that’s truly the only candidate we can muster up, one who takes away the NRA’s right to criticize him during elections, then God help us all.
To me...that’s a sign that we’re already basically gone as a free country, and to vote for such a man is simply a vote from me to him to destroy our constitution.
Ed
Even if that were NOT the case, though,
Accepting an America-hating, Osama-appeasing idiot for Commander-in-Chief is not guts, it's cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.
“I seek out those of like mind.”
It’s so hard to find like minded people that after 40+ years and only finding my wife, I have given up trying.
Still, I often ask my wife - Are we the only human beings left on earth? What do you have to do to meet a real person, make one?
The liberal republican elites are counting on the fact that conservatives like you and I are going to blink and vote for McCain anyway. If we accept McCain now then we will lose all of the clout that we currently have. Because they will not believe us if we say that we will not vote for a liberal Republican. So, yes the stakes are high but I think the ultimate damage is worse if McCain is elected than if Hillary or Obama is elected.
I don't understand what you mean by "GOP majority". Do you mean leaders of the RNC or the electorate? In general, I agree with your sentiment. We Conservatives got JM shoved up our collective arse, with no electoral input by at least 95% of the US Republican/Conservative electorate. In fact, many of the early primary states elections allowed independants and CROSSOVER DIMS. And by then, it was over, a done deal, ship it. Ninety-five percent of our electorate had no say.
His most RECENT ACU rating (2006) is 65
to put this in perspective he ranked 47th in the Senate a hair above Nelson (D Neb)
Data from the ACU website:
Dement 100
Thune 100
Inhofe 100
Coburn 100
Ensign 100
Coryn 96
Enzi 96
Thomas 96
Allen 96
Dole 96
Santorum 96
Chambliss 96
Isakson 96
Bunning 96
Vitter 92
Talent 92
Burns 92
Sessions 92
Burr 92
Kyl 92
Craig 88
Crapo 88
Grassley 88
Allard 88
Sununu 88
Brownback 87
Lott 87
Roberts 84
McConnell 84
Hutchinson 84
Hatch 84
Martinez 84
Graham 83
Bond 80
Furst 76
Domenici 75
Hagel 75
Shelby 74
Gregg 72
Dewine 72
Smith 72
Bennett 72
Alexander 72
Murkowski 71
Coleman 68
Cochran 67
***MCCAIN 65***
Nelson (D Neb)64
Warner 64
Lugar 64
Tho one can only do so much when you have the RNC and Bush pushing establishment RINO Republicans over conservatives. Don't expect that to change with McBush at the top of the ticket.
Better that than to cut one's throat to save one's face.
No I don’t.
You’ve already got your fingers in your ears and you’re just not willing to listen to the facts.
Was there a sale on capital letters?
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/justsayno2johnmccain/
Sorry, all of my “Just say NO” threads stand, and many more in the series to follow during this campaign season.. a lot can happen between now and November.. for now I still say “Just say No to John McCain”... we have a LONG way to go before the General election... we DO NOT need to settle for McCain this early in the game.. I suggest we focus on putting conservatives in congress !!
David
“elections allowed independants and CROSSOVER DIMS. And by then, it was over, a done deal, ship it. Ninety-five percent of our electorate had no say.”
Here in lays our biggest problem. Which seems to be over looked by the infighting. Laws need to be changed as soon as possible to prevent a repeat. (I am one of the 95% that didn’t get my vote heard since the primary hasn’t happened yet in my state.)
We may not have the same end voting plan on this election but I hope All conservatives will join together and fight for our right to our Freedoms.
*Curtsy*
My 14 year old son is driving me crazy.
“Mom, if someone takes his strawberries, he’ll push THE button, won’t he?”
LOL
McCain't.
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