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1 posted on 03/26/2008 12:34:42 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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2 posted on 03/26/2008 12:35:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When you choose the lesser of two evils, you still have evil.)
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OK, how about we blame greedy politicians with their hands on taxpayers’ wallets, pandering to illegals, Arnie? Is that more accurate?


4 posted on 03/26/2008 12:36:35 PM PDT by Hoffer Rand (Forget "Who is John Galt?" I want to know "Where is Galt's Gulch?")
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Putting a 50% fee on wiring money out of the country would help address the shortfall. It would also send a lot of crimmigrants elsewhere.


5 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:27 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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Schwarzenegger needs to quit calling himself a Republican. He isn't even a RINO. He's married to a frikin’ Kennedy for Pete's sake! He's a raging-flamming-libtard to the core.
6 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:29 PM PDT by avacado (Thomas Sowell: "Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.")
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To be fair, the mess started in the legislature. And since there are no illegal aliens in the CA legislature, Aaaaahnold is correct.


8 posted on 03/26/2008 12:37:48 PM PDT by Redcloak (Yeah... Sure... McCain. Why not.)
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it would be a "big mistake" to blame illegal immigrants for the state's looming $8 billion budget problem. - Thats true, Arnold is a legal immigrant
9 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:17 PM PDT by SF Republican (Conservatives wanted all or nothing, and they got it.)
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Illegals are not the problem...

It's the entitlement mentality and mandatory spending proposals that keep getting passed. Illegals just fall under that umbrella.

10 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:34 PM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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There you have it. The millions of illegal invaders in Cali are not to blame for the budget mess.


11 posted on 03/26/2008 12:38:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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It sure as hell hasn't helped it, Arnie. Look at how much illegals in Los Angeles county get in WELFARE. JUST welfare--not education, not hospitals, not jails, not overcrowded roads and freeways, not...you get the idea.

Oh wait--no you don't.
12 posted on 03/26/2008 12:40:13 PM PDT by OCCASparky (Steely-Eyed Killer of the Deep)
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F’ing bull$h!t Arnold.

Let's look at the cost of education alone.
I was told it is $7,000 for a regular citizen kid and $14,000 for an illegal kid.

After you do the math of $14,000 times the millions of illegal kids you get probably near 3 billion of debt a year right there.

We ban illegals in school without payment from their countries and we save 8 billion in a couple of years.

Add to that the cost of medical, the lack of tax payments a year and probably the state goes 5 or more billion a year in debt with illegals without a doubt.

Educate the kids in a tent city or make the illegals go pay for baby sitters.

14 posted on 03/26/2008 12:41:08 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Technically, he's right. It was the Legislature spending ridiculous amounts of money in an attempt to win the favor and future votes of the shiftless, the indigent, the criminal, and illegal immigrants which has caused the problem.
15 posted on 03/26/2008 12:41:46 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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Ahrnald has turned into a girlie man!


16 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:20 PM PDT by meandog (Please pray for future President McCain--day minus 300 and counting! Stay home and get Baraked!)
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He is, what a maroon.


18 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:35 PM PDT by boomop1
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HOw much does medi-cal pay out a year to reimburse california hospitals for illegals using them as free birthing centers and emergency rooms as their healthcare provider?

How much does the state have to pay each year for the public education and bi-lingual instruction of illegals?

How much does the state have to pay each year for the housing of illegal immigrants in prisons and jails?


19 posted on 03/26/2008 12:42:35 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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A person does not pay into a system yet, takes advantage of that service.

A person does not pay into a system yet, receives money or in-kind benefits

According to our Governor, they are not to blame for budget problems.

So if you are spending more then you are taking it, that is not the problem, according to our Governor, the problem is you are not taking enough from those paying into a system they do not use.

I got all that right?


20 posted on 03/26/2008 12:43:40 PM PDT by edcoil (Go Great in 08 ... Slide into 09)
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I don’t blame the illegal aliens. I blame the political types who have allowed them to overrun our borders and soak up taxpayer money.

susie


21 posted on 03/26/2008 12:44:06 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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Well, he’s right. They’re only partly to blame.

The chief blame falls on: Arnold Schwarzenegger.


22 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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DAn, Send this to the Gov.

Now.................

I hope the following 14 reasons are read so many times that the readers get sick of reading them. I have included the URL’s for verification of the following facts.

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.

Homeland Security Report
http://www.house.gov/mccaul/pdf/Investigaions-Border-Report.pdf

12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/publications.php?b=deportation

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.
http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm

14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States’.
http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals

The total cost is a whooping $ 338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR !


24 posted on 03/26/2008 12:45:49 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( (Give a person a fish .......Teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks)
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Heah me now, beeleef me latuh:
M-O-O-N. Ya, dat spells “moon”.


25 posted on 03/26/2008 12:46:35 PM PDT by tumblindice (McCain and Democrats agree: It's only `hate speech' if it's from Ann C.)
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Well, OK then, how about we place blame on the three elements most blameworthy, in descending order: (1) The Austrian; (2) The clowns in Sacramento who pass for what we laughingly call the Legislature, and (3) Illegal aliens which are in fact a huge financial drag on this state.

There. All fixed.

27 posted on 03/26/2008 12:48:08 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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