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Bear Stearns: How This DID Happen--And Will There Be More?
CNBC ^ | Pisani

Posted on 03/17/2008 6:41:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz

To everyone who called me or emailed me over the weekend saying, "How could this happen? How could Bear Stearns go from $57 to $2 in two days?" I would offer the comment of one astute trader, who said, "When you are levered 30 times and have no access to finance it doesn't take a huge move on $400 billion in assets and $260 billion of debt to wipe out the equity."

Two questions dominate the Street this morning:

1) What will Bear Stearns' shareholders--specifically Bear employees--do? The $2 per share deal is subject to shareholder approval, and Bear employees--many of whom have significant parts of their life savings in Bear stock--are certainly stunned enough to create at least a minor protest over the price. Sandler O'Neill noted that "we do not believe it is incomprehensible that this deal may have bought Bear Stearns additional time to assess its situation which may lead shareholders to reject the offer."

2) What will happen to the other major brokers and banks, and what will the reaction of the credit markets be? With a book value at nearly $80 per share for Bear, the $2 price makes it tough on other brokers. A flight to firms with the strongest balance sheets seems obvious. Analysts were out this morning with various comments on who does have the strongest balance Goldman Sachs , for example, opined that Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan had the strongest balance sheet. Street seems to be treating it that way: Lehman down 28 percent pre-open, Merrill down 16 percent, Goldman and Morgan Stanley down down 8 percent, JP Morgan up.

Meredith Whitney, who has become an ax in this space through her coverage at Oppenheimer, put out a note this morning titled, "BSC Fire Sale to Cause Valuation Adjustment for All Financials: Banks at Risk," in which she argues that financial stocks have further downside of as much as 50% based upon 1990/1991 multiples of tangible book values. She says most banks are trading well above their price to book lows of the 1990-1991 cycle.

So, what will finally end all this turmoil? The Street is screaming that the government should directly or indirectly begin buying mortgage backed securities, and, to a lesser extent that a wider bailout program needs to be devised to stem home price depreciation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bearstearns; depression; economy; recession; soros; wallstreet; wereallgonnadie
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To: nicmarlo
So give me the religious interpretation . . . then we can try to correlate it to your economic Talibanism. I'm honestly not that familiar as to why Judas sold out for thirty pieces of silver. Did he think he was getting a good deal at the time, or not?
161 posted on 03/17/2008 11:07:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I guess I'm Judas and I guess I'm selling somebody out.

..or your country.

Why do you refuse to post what you do for a living?

162 posted on 03/17/2008 11:09:29 AM PDT by am452 (Globalist: Converting the American people to the Democrat party since 1992)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

As you know, there’s a difference between correcting misstatements and turning an entire thread into a discussion on it.

That is something you do....for the point of siderailing the very thread of discussion.

When are you going to make a thread about derivatives?


163 posted on 03/17/2008 11:09:58 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: am452
My desire for smaller government is selling out my country?
164 posted on 03/17/2008 11:10:22 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What’s more interesting about that chart of holders is who is holding the bag at BSC. Looks like a pretty incestuous club, Morgan Stanley, Legg Mason, etc all holding BSC.


165 posted on 03/17/2008 11:10:50 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Toddsterpatriot; nicmarlo
I guess I'm Judas and I guess I'm selling somebody out.

But that's where I get confused. Are you selling our dear friend nic for money, or not? Did Judas think he was properly compensated and then later have second thoughts? Like I said, I'm not up on the theology.

166 posted on 03/17/2008 11:11:05 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: nicmarlo
As you know, there’s a difference between correcting misstatements and turning an entire thread into a discussion on it.

I responded to one post. It's your whining and ignorance that's derailing the thread.

When are you going to make a thread about derivatives?

When are you?

167 posted on 03/17/2008 11:11:56 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

What do you do for a living? You do not have to name the company ....or group.


168 posted on 03/17/2008 11:12:06 AM PDT by am452 (Globalist: Converting the American people to the Democrat party since 1992)
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To: am452
Why do you refuse to post what you do for a living?

My guess is that he knows you'd use it to avoid responding to his points and attack him personally? Duh.

169 posted on 03/17/2008 11:12:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot

I’ve never met someone who didn’t know exactly what a Judas was, or the 30 pieces of silver. I know few Americans, who claim to be educated, who do not know who Benedict Arnold is.

In fact, I have never met anyone who claimed they didn’t know and understand what being called a Judas or Benedict Arnold means.

Except the two of you, who claim to be so brilliant.

fofl!


170 posted on 03/17/2008 11:13:35 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: palmer
Looks like a pretty incestuous club, Morgan Stanley, Legg Mason, etc all holding BSC.

You're not surprised that investment firms are holding stock, are you?

171 posted on 03/17/2008 11:13:59 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: nicmarlo
Oh shut up. I'm asking you to develop your analogy. And you cannot. Big surprise.
172 posted on 03/17/2008 11:14:41 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yet another tactic of yours, Toad.

Answer a question with a question.

Which one is that in your handlers’ playbook?


173 posted on 03/17/2008 11:15:05 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

No, they have to hold stock. I’m a bit surprised they are holding financials after this past summer.


174 posted on 03/17/2008 11:15:19 AM PDT by palmer
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To: 1rudeboy
My guess is that he knows you'd use it to avoid responding to his points and attack him personally?

There is a reason why he will not post what he does for a living. Guess the 30 pieces of silver relating to him is a correct assumption.

175 posted on 03/17/2008 11:16:42 AM PDT by am452 (Globalist: Converting the American people to the Democrat party since 1992)
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To: nicmarlo

It’s in the “How to deal with a boorish idiot” section.


176 posted on 03/17/2008 11:16:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: am452

Riiiight.


177 posted on 03/17/2008 11:17:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: am452
So what career would make your assumption correct?
178 posted on 03/17/2008 11:17:34 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

So.....which .gov is your handler, Toad?


179 posted on 03/17/2008 11:17:48 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Do you remember back when these characters thought you and I are the same person? How long ago was that?


180 posted on 03/17/2008 11:18:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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