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Bear Stearns: How This DID Happen--And Will There Be More?
CNBC ^ | Pisani

Posted on 03/17/2008 6:41:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz

To everyone who called me or emailed me over the weekend saying, "How could this happen? How could Bear Stearns go from $57 to $2 in two days?" I would offer the comment of one astute trader, who said, "When you are levered 30 times and have no access to finance it doesn't take a huge move on $400 billion in assets and $260 billion of debt to wipe out the equity."

Two questions dominate the Street this morning:

1) What will Bear Stearns' shareholders--specifically Bear employees--do? The $2 per share deal is subject to shareholder approval, and Bear employees--many of whom have significant parts of their life savings in Bear stock--are certainly stunned enough to create at least a minor protest over the price. Sandler O'Neill noted that "we do not believe it is incomprehensible that this deal may have bought Bear Stearns additional time to assess its situation which may lead shareholders to reject the offer."

2) What will happen to the other major brokers and banks, and what will the reaction of the credit markets be? With a book value at nearly $80 per share for Bear, the $2 price makes it tough on other brokers. A flight to firms with the strongest balance sheets seems obvious. Analysts were out this morning with various comments on who does have the strongest balance Goldman Sachs , for example, opined that Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan had the strongest balance sheet. Street seems to be treating it that way: Lehman down 28 percent pre-open, Merrill down 16 percent, Goldman and Morgan Stanley down down 8 percent, JP Morgan up.

Meredith Whitney, who has become an ax in this space through her coverage at Oppenheimer, put out a note this morning titled, "BSC Fire Sale to Cause Valuation Adjustment for All Financials: Banks at Risk," in which she argues that financial stocks have further downside of as much as 50% based upon 1990/1991 multiples of tangible book values. She says most banks are trading well above their price to book lows of the 1990-1991 cycle.

So, what will finally end all this turmoil? The Street is screaming that the government should directly or indirectly begin buying mortgage backed securities, and, to a lesser extent that a wider bailout program needs to be devised to stem home price depreciation.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bearstearns; depression; economy; recession; soros; wallstreet; wereallgonnadie
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To: Mad Dawgg
Gambling cartels......

HA!!

121 posted on 03/17/2008 10:21:35 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: ex-Texan

Stunned Bear Stearns investors eye legal claims

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Angry Bear Stearns Co Inc shareholders have wasted no time in calling their lawyers to pursue potential legal recourse over the company’s $2-a-share fire sale to JPMorgan Chase & Co.

“I can’t divulge privileged conversations, but shareholders don’t contact me when they are happy with the way things are going with their investments,” said Ira Press, a lawyer at class-action firm Kirby McInerney, which has spoken with dismayed Bear investors about the matter.

“This is a stock that has gone from 50 to 2 literally overnight, and I also know of people who had assumed that the worst had passed when it closed at 30,” he said.

....Shareholders might sue Bear and its executives and officers for securities fraud, contending they failed to disclose the company’s true financial health, lawyers say.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080317/us_nm/bearstearns_lawsuits_dc


122 posted on 03/17/2008 10:23:04 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: Illuminatas
You choose to lose...what you choose to lose.

Money management is/should be the same no matter what you are doing....Las Vegas, household spending, stocks, bonds, muni's, futures..etc.

FWIW-

123 posted on 03/17/2008 10:26:02 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart is darker than the devil's riding boots.................)
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To: khnyny

Thanks for the link....

some good stuff in that article although not very well written and certainly an attempt to gloss over the lack of responsibility for these people.


124 posted on 03/17/2008 10:26:54 AM PDT by misterrob (Obama-Does America Need Another Jimmy Carter?)
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To: nicmarlo
What does your question have to do with the substance of Positive's post?

What is the substance of his post?

What gives me sour stomach is the fact that there are $750 Trillion in "derivatives" out there, some of which aren't understood by their creators, much less by the traders or admittedly by the Secretary of the Treasury or his crew.

By my math, if just 1% of these unwind abruptly due to margin calls or the like, it would cause a $7.5 Trillion train wreak, the consequences of which no one can estimate...but they would be bad, very bad.

Spell it out for me.

125 posted on 03/17/2008 10:29:13 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Ann Archy
BEFORE they demanded that ALL people should own their own homes whether they could afford it or not.

Sounds like Bush's ownership society to me - remember when it was a matter of Republican pride that home ownership was at historic highs?

Here, I'll help you

Expanding Homeownership. The President believes that homeownership is the cornerstone of America's vibrant communities and benefits individual families by building stability and long-term financial security. In June 2002, President Bush issued America's Homeownership Challenge to the real estate and mortgage finance industries to encourage them to join the effort to close the gap that exists between the homeownership rates of minorities and non-minorities. The President also announced the goal of increasing the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million families before the end of the decade. Under his leadership, the overall U.S. homeownership rate in the second quarter of 2004 was at an all time high of 69.2 percent. Minority homeownership set a new record of 51 percent in the second quarter, up 0.2 percentage point from the first quarter and up 2.1 percentage points from a year ago. President Bush's initiative to dismantle the barriers to homeownership includes...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/08/20040809-9.html

126 posted on 03/17/2008 10:33:08 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The substance of his post was already addressed by himself, and me. You didn’t. Also, I’ve already asked you to make a thread ALL ABOUT DERIVATIVES. When are you going to do that?

The market is spelling “it” out for you, as have a great many others foflol. But you already have your 30 pieces of silver.
Carry on.


127 posted on 03/17/2008 10:33:17 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo; Positive; Halgr; Travis McGee; ex-Texan; groanup; SAJ; JasonC
The following, previously posted by ex-Texan on another, is yet more proof:

Bear Stearns Stock Fell Dramatically Over the Weekend Stock Sold for $ 2 Billion Profit at on February 14th

Insiders unloaded 27,316,339 Shares for about $ 70 + per share on February 14, 2008. For a profit of about $ 2 Billion ! ! ! ! What did they know and when did they know it ?

Morons! Did you follow the link? Try again.

14-Feb-08 27,316,339 BSC Statement of Ownership

Nobody sold 27,316,339 shares. LOL!

128 posted on 03/17/2008 10:35:32 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: nicmarlo; 1rudeboy
The Cubs beat the Dodgers yesterday, 4-1. Forbes estimates the Cubs are worth $592 million and the Dodgers are worth $431 million.

You can pretend that a $10 bet on yesterdays game put $1 billion at risk, because the performance of your bet was derived from the performance of $1 billion in underlying assets, but you really know it's only a $10 bet.

But keep showing your ignorance. It's funny!

129 posted on 03/17/2008 10:38:32 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

You have your 30 pieces of silver already! Argument over!


130 posted on 03/17/2008 10:40:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot

As do you. Most everyone on FR already knows this about both of you. Who are your handlers? They should demand a refund.


131 posted on 03/17/2008 10:42:37 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: ex-Texan; Petronski; Fan of Fiat; Mase
Bear Stearns Insiders Unloaded 27,316,339 Shares in February !

Did you read that on a real website? Or on www.dingbat.com ?

132 posted on 03/17/2008 10:43:56 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; 1rudeboy

You can keep lying about the “soundness of the US economy” like Bear Stearns did about their own “soundness,” but that doesn’t make it anything other than a lie or propaganda.


133 posted on 03/17/2008 10:43:59 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo
I'm going to bet $10 on the next Cubs game, can you spot me $1 billion, to cover my derivative?
134 posted on 03/17/2008 10:45:21 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

When are you going to make, and post, a thread ALL ABOUT DERIVATIVES?


135 posted on 03/17/2008 10:46:08 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: All

136 posted on 03/17/2008 10:47:36 AM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: nicmarlo
If I can educate you on this thread, I won't have to.
137 posted on 03/17/2008 10:47:38 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are goldbugs and protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

When are you going to make a thread ALL ABOUT DERIVATIVES?


138 posted on 03/17/2008 10:48:11 AM PDT by nicmarlo (A vote for McRino is a false mandate for McShamnesty)
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To: nicmarlo
I'll wager the 30 pieces of silver that I don't have that if you and I swapped assets and liabilities, you'd go running to the government and ask for a bail out (like Bear Stearns).
139 posted on 03/17/2008 10:48:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I must admit that sometimes, even more often these days, that I am ashamed to even be associated with these knee jerking frogs in a bucket called FR.

Otherwise, I find it amusing to watch....LOL

140 posted on 03/17/2008 10:49:35 AM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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