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German police shoot U.S. soldier dead
Yahoo news ^ | Mar 14 | Reuters

Posted on 03/15/2008 1:52:07 AM PDT by SolidWood

BERLIN (Reuters) - A U.S. soldier stationed in southern Germany was shot dead by police after threatening an ex-girlfriend and then going on the run armed with an assault rifle, authorities said on Friday.

The 30-year old, who was serving in the 2nd, "Dagger," brigade of the U.S. 1st Infantry Division, broke into the woman's house late on Thursday, threatened her and tied her up, police in the Bavarian region of Unterfranken said.

She was able to free herself and alerted the police, who began a search using a commando unit and a helicopter equipped with thermal imaging equipment.

Officers found the soldier several hundred meters from the woman's house and tried to arrest him but he threatened them with the semi-automatic rifle and was shot, police said.

He died in hospital early on Friday, according to a statement from the "Dagger" Brigade Chain of Command.

"The Dagger Brigade along with the United States Army Europe takes incidents of this nature extremely seriously and will continue to work with the German authorities to maintain community safety," the statement said.

The name of the soldier was being withheld until his next of kin had been informed, it added.

German police said there was no indication that officers had acted illegally and prosecutors were not planning to open an investigation into the marksmen.

"The officers had to assume that the suspect was going to fire on them with the weapon," a police statement said.

(Reporting by Iain Rogers, editing by Mark Trevelyan)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1stid; army; daggerbrigade; germany; police; soldier
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To: JudgemAll
I have a problem when we let Germans and not our own army deal with such problems. It’s a bad precedent.

We have agreements with NATO countries (and most others we have troops in), that a soldier that commits a civil offense in the host country will be tried by that country in its courts. If he commits a crime on base or against onother soldier, we deal with it.

101 posted on 03/17/2008 12:11:59 PM PDT by PsyOp (Truth in itself is rarely sufficient to make men act. - Clauswitz, On War, 1832.)
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To: RetiredArmy
What I do know for a fact is that many times we had troops give German police a hard time, thinking US troops did not have to do what they were told to do by the German police, and start some physical thing with the police. The GP always won those little get togethers. Stupid boys trying to tell cops what they can and cannot do to them.

Of course, "alcohol was involved."

102 posted on 03/18/2008 2:04:35 PM PDT by Erasmus (I love electronic things. My pacemaker is especially close to my heart.)
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To: Grunthor
K-town huh? I was Stationed at Landstuhl for 4 years. Lived on Vogelweh. Great area.

Vogelveh. "Birdache?" <}B^)

I worked out of our sales office on the Vogelhainweg in Sindelfingen. I still don't know the exact translation of that.

103 posted on 03/18/2008 2:14:52 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen, Meers.)
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To: Erasmus

You bet cha. Good ole German beer. 99.8% of the time.


104 posted on 03/18/2008 3:02:54 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (Obama is a black racist.)
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To: Brilliant
Do they let police have guns in Germany? I thought they were basically eunics.

Ummm. German Polizei are like Military Police.

105 posted on 03/18/2008 5:56:51 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
The very first thing a GI in Germany learned was not to give the Polizei any Scheiss.

I recall it not being uncommon to see them wandering around with Machine Pistols. ...I even got to watch the police take blood from an uncooperative drunk driver...through his nose, with a steel collection bowl, after bouncing his face off the police car.

106 posted on 03/18/2008 6:00:43 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: RetiredArmy
But having lived in Germany for 10 of my 20 years on active duty, YOU DO NOT MESS with the German police.

And every interaction I had with them, they were *exceptionally* professional.

107 posted on 03/18/2008 6:07:07 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
Actually, I saw Swedish Kops doing approximately the same thing to a native Swede guy about 25 years old. Four coppers were dragging him along the ground while a couple of others bludgeoned him with truncheons. European cops, in the day, didn't really worry about community relations.
108 posted on 03/18/2008 6:07:46 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The women got the vote and the Nation got Harding.)
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To: ketelone
who thought it would be funny to call some uniformed cops “Nazis”.

That's several levels of trouble there...including that Nazis are illegal in Germany.

109 posted on 03/18/2008 6:15:31 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: JudgemAll

have a problem when we let Germans and not our own army deal with such problems. It’s a bad precedent.

Do what now??? This happened OFF a US base on GERMAN TERRITORY. First of all man...lemme give you a heads up on something: German cops go through 4 years of basic police training before they hit the streets. They are a hell of a lot more qualified (not to mention their SWAT teams) to handle this kind of a situation.
Secondly, what about if a german soldier stationed here were to do this kind of thing...would you want the German Army to come chase this guy down in the streets of Ft. Bliss???? Get real man.


110 posted on 05/08/2008 7:46:49 PM PDT by cobra226 (GET REAL)
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