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Schwarzenegger denounces 'outrageous' homeschooling ruling
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/7/2008 | Jill Tucker and Bob Egelko

Posted on 03/07/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by GVnana

(03-07) 13:37 PST SACRAMENTO -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger promised today to ensure that parents have the right to homeschool their children, after a state appeals court ruling severely restricted the practice in California.

"Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what's best for their children," the governor said in a statement. "Parents should not be penalized for acting in the best interests of their children's education. This outrageous ruling must be overturned by the courts and if the courts don't protect parents' rights then, as elected officials, we will."

An estimated 166,000 children are homeschooled across the state.

The ruling by the Second District Court of Appeal in Los Angeles said all children ages 6 to 18 must attend public or private school full-time until graduation from high school or be tutored at home by a credentialed teacher.

The Southern California case stemmed from a child welfare dispute involving the children of Phillip and Mary Long of Lynwood (Los Angeles County). The couple's eight children have been home-schooled by Mary Long, who holds no teaching credential. The children were also enrolled in a private school through an independent study program, which included quarterly home visits. Although the case did not involve the question of the children's truancy, the court decision broadly addressed the legality of homeschooling in California while specifically ruling that the Long family's situation violated state law.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; buyammo; california; communism; denounces; homeschooling; rinosonparade; ruling; schwarzenegger
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To: MeanGreen2008
Arnold is a social liberal, but a fiscal conservative.

Last time I looked, fiscal conservatives don't grow government at record rates, borrow their way to insolvency, impose whacked out environmental legislation that destroys business or oppose private proerty rights.

Has the definition of fiscal conservative changed, or could you possibly be wrong?

101 posted on 03/07/2008 8:18:52 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: webschooner
Liberal Arnie is supporting a conservative cause?? Whatz wid dat??

Term limits; he doesn't need the teacher's union to support him anymore, would be my strongest guess.

102 posted on 03/07/2008 8:22:21 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: GVnana
"Every California child deserves a quality education and parents should have the right to decide what's best for their children,"

That's exactly what a long standing Supreme Court ruling says.

http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000075.asp

"In 1925, the Supreme Court decided the Pierce v. Society of Sisters6 case, thereby supporting Meyer’s recognition of the parents’ right to direct the religious upbringing of their children and to control the process of their education.

In Pierce, the Supreme Court struck down an Oregon compulsory education law which, in effect, required attendance of all children between ages eight and sixteen at public schools. The Court declared, Under the doctrine of Meyer v. Nebraska, we think it entirely plain that the Act of 1922 unreasonably interferes with the liberty of parents and guardians to direct the upbringing and education of children."

103 posted on 03/07/2008 8:22:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: GVnana

If Arnie really means this, as Governor he will tell his LEO agencies through executive order to not enforce it.


104 posted on 03/07/2008 8:23:04 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GVnana

Did it dawn on him that the law was about to inspire 100,000 homeschooling families to move out of CA? And these are the type of families that have jobs and pay taxes, not the welfare sponging liberal types.


105 posted on 03/07/2008 8:24:31 PM PST by highlander_UW (illegal alien is to an undocumented worker as a drug dealer is to an unlicensed pharmacist)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a common sense cause,

It's also a right of parents guaranteed by a long standing Supreme Court Ruling -

http://www.hslda.org/docs/nche/000000/00000075.asp

106 posted on 03/07/2008 8:25:49 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: highlander_UW

I doubt it. What’s another 100,000 when you have a net loss in population of 250,000 per year.


107 posted on 03/07/2008 8:26:27 PM PST by GVnana ("They're still analyzing the first guy. What do I have to worry about?" - GWB)
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To: GVnana
"We always think students should be taught by credentialed teachers, no matter what the setting."

I love statements like this, because they manifest the professional educator's worldview that learning only takes place in school. I've found that most (worthwhile) learning takes place anywhere BUT in school.

I learned to hate school while going to school, and I became far too cynical. I have barely recovered from the experience, and I graduated from HS in 1980.

108 posted on 03/07/2008 8:28:26 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: GVnana

Bout time he was good for something....


109 posted on 03/07/2008 8:30:57 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush in 2008, they have nothing else. Mark my words.)
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To: stevio

Mark “the Great One” Levin discussed this briefly on his radio show today. I missed Hannity & Colmes tonight; I was actually going to tune in predicting now that his friend Arnold has spoken against this, Sean might have time for it.

At least the conservative media is covering it. It is gratifying to see discussion even over at The Corner on NRO.


110 posted on 03/07/2008 8:32:03 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: GVnana
Home-schooled children do not make good mind-numbed robots, and Croskey is a dupe.

He's a tad old. (72, 73?) I bet he was having a bad Depends day. He went to U.S.C. and of all the topics he could have chosen to study, he took public policy. That's the sign of a small mind.
111 posted on 03/07/2008 8:32:09 PM PST by farmer18th (Conservatives who vote McCain are like abused dogs who keep licking their master's hand...)
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To: GVnana

well something I actually AGREE with him on!!!


112 posted on 03/07/2008 8:32:45 PM PST by pollywog
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To: calcowgirl

Every homeschooled child shall be issued a cucumber and a condom! Heil Hillary!


113 posted on 03/07/2008 8:32:47 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: easternsky

Pretty damned depressing, isn’t it?


114 posted on 03/07/2008 8:34:35 PM PST by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: JoanneSD
What would be next? Need to be a medic before you can give your kid an aspirin

Don't give them any ideas!

115 posted on 03/07/2008 8:35:35 PM PST by budwiesest (The Clinton fix is in. If these two crooks can't steal the election, nobody can.)
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To: quiverfull; All

and now for a laugh.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM6uqj0_jQc


116 posted on 03/07/2008 8:36:30 PM PST by kimmie7 (At the end of the day it comes down to the Lord and me, not me and the GOP.)
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To: GVnana; Amerigomag
That's the kill stroke. We're going to need new statutes.

It would seem so, if the judge characterized the statutes correctly. (See also post 96 above from Amerigomag which makes no mention of credential, just states "persons capable of teaching").

Doesn't this just make you think of Hillary Clinton's village?

Yeah. But I have mixed feelings. I was doing some research a couple years ago about the communist schools in California. In one school located in Yucaipa, they had the good little students lining up every day before the Soviet flag, pledging allegiance to Russia, and singing communist songs. Today, the people that would be teaching in those schools have just moved into the public education system. I don't know what the right answer is as to oversight, but it seems like with zero oversight there is a risk to "public welfare." Of course, when you have the inmates running the prisons there are bound to be a whole different set of issues. ;-)

117 posted on 03/07/2008 8:37:12 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: maine-iac7
Did you read this particular ruling? I don't think Pierce applies.
The link is posted a few times, up-thread.
118 posted on 03/07/2008 8:40:41 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: poindexters brother

My teacher career spanned from 1968-2000. Most of my teacher ed classes were completely worthless. In the 1980’s and 1990’s many of my student teachers told me that their classes were a waste of their time and money.


119 posted on 03/07/2008 8:41:41 PM PST by Irish Queen (Nevada Gal)
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To: humblegunner

no one in the school was ever concerned with our credentials when we had to assist with the homework, correct it with them,
and then review it all.


120 posted on 03/07/2008 8:42:02 PM PST by catroina54
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