[Disambiguator]

"We always think students should be taught by credentialed teachers, no matter what the setting."

I love statements like this, because they manifest the professional educator's worldview that learning only takes place in school. I've found that most (worthwhile) learning takes place anywhere BUT in school.

I learned to hate school while going to school, and I became far too cynical. I have barely recovered from the experience, and I graduated from HS in 1980.

[Tired of Taxes]

I learned to hate school while going to school, and I became far too cynical. I have barely recovered from the experience, and I graduated from HS in 1980.

Class of '82 here. :-) I share your sentiment above.

[uptoolate]

I've found that most (worthwhile) learning takes place anywhere BUT in school.

Agree! Best way is by mentoring. That usually means spending time (1 on 1) with someone that is more experienced in the field being mentored.

When was the last time you were in a room full of 20 or more people the same age as you?

For me it was 1983. My guess for you is 1980.

At least school taught us how to stand in line.

[GVnana]

"We always think students should be taught by credentialed teachers, no matter what the setting."

I love statements like this, because they manifest the professional educator's worldview that learning only takes place in school. I've found that most (worthwhile) learning takes place anywhere BUT in school.

I learned to hate school while going to school, and I became far too cynical. I have barely recovered from the experience, and I graduated from HS in 1980.

Isn't that the truth.

[DugwayDuke]

“I love statements like this, because they manifest the professional educator’s worldview that learning only takes place in school.”

That isn’t their point at all. The real message is that real learning must be conducted under the auspices of a professionally trained and unionized school teacher. This is the classic union tactic of restricting the supply of labor in order to drive up wages.

What I love is the teacher union mantra that ‘we must increase teacher salaries to attract better teachers’. I have a series of questions when I hear this:

-What will you do with the present inadequate teachers when you get the new and better teachers? After all, if the old teachers are inadequate, why keep them?

The usual response is ‘who said the present teachers are inadequate’? And, the answer is ‘You did when you said you needed to pay more to get better teachers’.

Another response is ‘if we pay them more then they will teach better.’ And, my response is ‘do you mean the ones you have now could be better teachers if they would just try harder and work to their full potential? Do you get rewarded with pay raises when your boss thinks you’re not working to your full potential?’

You can have all sorts of fun with questions like this.