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Iraqi Army to Ditch AK-47s for M-16s
Military.com ^ | February 27, 2008 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 03/06/2008 10:27:33 AM PST by gandalftb

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To: gandalftb
"But keep in mind most of these AKs have been sitting around in bunkers or whatnot for 30 or 40 years [and] are in various stages of disrepair."

So? Get a garden hose and wash of the big chunks of dirt, wipe them down with an oilcloth, and they're good to go for another 30 or 40 years.

What's the problem?

41 posted on 03/06/2008 11:07:57 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: Camel Joe

So much for theory. Read “Blackhawk Down”. The attackers were hit with multiple .223 rounds from the poodle-shooter and kept coming. The guys shot with the .308 went down and stayed down.


42 posted on 03/06/2008 11:09:50 AM PST by 76Tiger
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To: Red Badger

That lovely AK plywood, yeah. I filled in holes and cracks with JB Weld epoxy.


43 posted on 03/06/2008 11:11:20 AM PST by tumblindice (What would a free man do?)
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To: tumblindice
I was talking about the M-14...............
44 posted on 03/06/2008 11:13:09 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Southack

See # 30. An interesting take on the situation.


45 posted on 03/06/2008 11:14:44 AM PST by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: gandalftb

“”We in the U.S. know that the M-16 is superior to the AK ... it’s more durable,” said Army Col. Stephen Scott,”

LOL.. is that the punchline or the Joke!


46 posted on 03/06/2008 11:15:31 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: DoughtyOne

Then go 6.8 for the M-16.


47 posted on 03/06/2008 11:15:38 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Red Badger

Oh. Never mind...


48 posted on 03/06/2008 11:15:42 AM PST by tumblindice (What would a free man do?)
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To: 76Tiger

The Saiga .308 uses 7.62 Nato and can have high capacity magazines, it is made at Izhmash.... same place they make the ak 100 series


49 posted on 03/06/2008 11:16:36 AM PST by MD_Willington_1976
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To: satan
How much is this going to cost us the taxpayers?

Nothing. It's being bought through FMS using Iraq's money.

50 posted on 03/06/2008 11:18:26 AM PST by Allegra (Posting without being logged on since 2001)
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To: Bosco

Why a 6.8? Just curious.


51 posted on 03/06/2008 11:18:47 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Some think McCain should pick his No 2 now. I thought the nominee was No 2. And that No 1s me off!)
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To: gandalftb

One question: Who is paying the bill?


52 posted on 03/06/2008 11:20:51 AM PST by B4Ranch ("In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." FDR)
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To: MD_Willington_1976
M-16 is a shooter's rifle. AK-47 is a sprayer's rifle.

Iraqis going to the M-16/M-4 means that they want an army of shooters, not sprayers.

The problem with the M-16 has been the gas system - direct impingement. It gets hot and dirty and needs regular cleaning. There are ways to mitigate - by using a gas piston system. Bushmaster, Patriot Ordnance and one other company makes drop-in uppers. Stays cool, minimal maintenance.

53 posted on 03/06/2008 11:24:11 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Allegra

Are we selling new or used weapons, I’ve heard we are going to transition to a new weapon for our forces.


54 posted on 03/06/2008 11:25:21 AM PST by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: 76Tiger
The attackers were hit with multiple .223 rounds from the poodle-shooter and kept coming.

And yet, 6 years into a shooting war and countless dead terrorists later, we continue to issue 556mm for individual weapons and light machineguns.

That's one impressive conspiracy, since apparently we've been at war all this time and have failed to notice 556 is ineffective.

55 posted on 03/06/2008 11:26:20 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: gandalftb

Hopefully they are BUYING them from us. I wonder why they are doing this, the AK and it’s parts are so ubiquitous on the world market. Cheaper also.


56 posted on 03/06/2008 11:26:46 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
"We in the U.S. know that the M-16 is superior to the AK ... it's more durable," said Army Col. Stephen Scott

Colonel Scott made a funny.....

L

57 posted on 03/06/2008 11:29:30 AM PST by Lurker (Pimping my blog: http://lurkerslair-lurker.blogspot.com/)
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To: DoughtyOne
6.8 is currently used by some U.S. Special Forces using the M-16 platform. It's a known quantity but it's an improvement as compared to the 5.56's stopping power.

Bushmaster sells 6.8SPC rifles now.

They also sell gas piston retrofit kits for $400.

58 posted on 03/06/2008 11:29:52 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: ibbryn
Dang. They are going to give what little .223 ammo is available to the Iraqis.

My local SportsmansWarehouse had a "friends and family" night about 10 days ago. I was ready to stock up on .223 FMJ. There were no big boxes of 200 or 1000 rds. Just the premium hunting/varmint rounds with 20 per box at fairly high prices. Disappointing. I purchased some powder and primers. There wasn't any good deals on boxes of 55 gr FMJ bullets either.

59 posted on 03/06/2008 11:31:49 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Vaquero

I see why Bush invaded Iraq. It wasn’t cheap oil it was to sell weapons!!
How long will it be before you see this on DU?


60 posted on 03/06/2008 11:33:06 AM PST by Holicheese (Beware your friendly air defenses!)
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