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Ron Paul is Pro-choice
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Posted on 03/05/2008 1:35:29 PM PST by samrig

Ron Paul is pro-choice state by state: "While Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid." 1-31-06. ... If Ron Paul lived in Berlin in 1944 and had said, "While killing Jews is invalid, a federal law banning the holocaust across all of Germany's 16 states would be equally invalid," his wicked claim would be immediately obvious to most people, but abortion has so dehumanized babies that even pro-lifers are vulnerable to lies that promote tolerance of the slaughter.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; abortion; apaulling; apaulogists; christian; godwin; libertarian; paulestinians; paulistinians; prolife; ronpaul; statesrights
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1 posted on 03/05/2008 1:35:30 PM PST by samrig
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To: samrig

Why are you worried about, Paul, he’s out?


2 posted on 03/05/2008 1:36:34 PM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: samrig

Wow, your first day on FR.


3 posted on 03/05/2008 1:38:06 PM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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To: samrig

Don’t respect the Constitution much do ya???


4 posted on 03/05/2008 1:38:15 PM PST by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: samrig

Godwinned right from the start.


5 posted on 03/05/2008 1:38:29 PM PST by PeterFinn (I am not voting for McCain. No way, no how.)
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To: rednesss

He got only 56 from NRLC, 0 from NARAL.


6 posted on 03/05/2008 1:40:19 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: samrig
Being pro-States rights does not equate to being pro-choice.
7 posted on 03/05/2008 1:40:20 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: samrig
What's with this freaky website? Is it run by the Puritans?

* Paul Promotes the Immoral Libertarian Party: Libertarian Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination and remains on "good terms" with the Libertarian Party and spoke at its 2004 national convention and he has never repudiated them even though the Libertarian Party is viciously immoral and officially: pro-legalized abortion, pro-legalized homosexuality, pro-legalized pornography, pro-legalized adultery, pro-legalizing crack cocaine, pro-legalized suicide, and pro-legalized euthanasia, pro-legalizing prostitution, and against protecting marriage between a man and a woman, The Libertarian Party is based on a humanist rather than on a Judeo-Christian worldview and thus has misguided notions of governance and no compass for righteousness in law.

8 posted on 03/05/2008 1:41:34 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: samrig

A federal law may be invalid but a constitutional amendment would not.

Just like we did with slavery.


9 posted on 03/05/2008 1:42:11 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: processing please hold

Paul is still in his Congressional district. He won his GOP primary.


10 posted on 03/05/2008 1:42:38 PM PST by weegee (Those who surrender personal liberty to lower global temperatures will receive neither.)
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To: samrig
John McCain takes the same Stephen A. Douglas/Gerald R. Ford position as Ron Paul, claiming that states' rights trump the unalienable right to life.

They obviously don't know the meaning of the word "unalienable," and I guess they never read the Declaration, the Preamble to the Constitution, or the Fifth and the Fourteenth Amendments. OR the Reagan pro-life platform...

“Just as I believe that the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to the states.” - John McCain, This Week with George Stephanopoulos, Nov. 19, 2006

11 posted on 03/05/2008 1:43:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance ("What fellowship has light with darkness?")
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This is a lot of conservatives' positions. It was Fred Thompson's too I believe.

I'm pro-life. I support overturning Roe vs. Wade. But I oppose a federal law banning abortion. However, I personally believe it should be each states' right to choose if they shall have legal abortions in their states. It should be the choice each states' people via their elected state representatives.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

-Tenth Amendment of the United States Constitution

12 posted on 03/05/2008 1:43:40 PM PST by NoWayMcCain
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Wow the Paul haters came out fast for this thread, I guess it makes them feel better about the RINO who has the party nomination?


13 posted on 03/05/2008 1:43:46 PM PST by Santa Fe_Conservative (The RINOs think that they have won but we shall see who has the last laugh in '08...)
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To: samrig
This post and all that it references is total garbage unworthy of a rat's notice. File this under merde du jour.
14 posted on 03/05/2008 1:44:33 PM PST by Siobhan (Restore the Republic. Save the Constitution.)
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If Ron Paul lived in Berlin in 1944 and had said, "While killing Jews is invalid, a federal law banning the holocaust across all of Germany's 16 states would be equally invalid,"

Holy cow. Have ye no shame?

You signed up today to post this tripe?

15 posted on 03/05/2008 1:44:49 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: NoWayMcCain

It’s my own position as well. Pro-life...and federal laws.

And I am not a Ron Paul supporter...its a fairly typical view of conservative pro-lifers who take the constitution seriously.


16 posted on 03/05/2008 1:46:42 PM PST by Prysson
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To: samrig
Being for the State by State approach does not make one Pro-Choice. Fred Thompson was also Pro-Life and endorsed by the National Right to Life even though he was for the state by state approach.

To understand the State by State approach, one needs to understand the Constitutional requirements to have a Constitutional amendment passed (and the history).

To have a Constitutional amendment passed, it requires 2/3rds of all States to ratify, (23rds of those in the States voting for) and 2/3rds of Congress. Right now, the country is pretty much split 50/50 on the issue. If the trigger is pulled to soon on the Constitutional approach, it will be shot down- that, unfortunatly is reality.

Now, if you go with the State by State approach, will you have an immediate impact in some States. Once you have changed enough States, you know you have a shot at passing the Constitutional approach.

Going State by State is like playing poker, playing each hand as you get it. The Constitutional approach is like betting your entire pot on a blind draw hoping for a royal flush.

Now, there are other votes and positions Paul has taken on abortion I disagree with and believe are unconstitutional, but on going for the State by State approach, he isn’t wrong.

17 posted on 03/05/2008 1:48:37 PM PST by mnehring
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To: samrig

Ronald Reagan always said vote with your feet. Ron Paul is against the government ruling by edict. If people don’t want to live in a cesspool like NY city, they can move to a more civilized place like Charleston SC. Only when allowed to wallow in there own filth and depravity like NYC is will people truly see them for the bereft husks they are.
I too am adamant that anyone who goes to an ultrasound cannot possibly remain in favor of abortion, but until people are forced to see abominations like abortion, the holocaust, or whatever epidemic you can think of, they wont do anything about it.


18 posted on 03/05/2008 1:54:45 PM PST by MovementConservative (Terminate the Duke 88)
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To: samrig

Godwin’s Law (also known as Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies)[1] is an adage formulated by Mike Godwin in 1990. The law states:

“As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.”

Godwin’s Law is often cited in online discussions as a caution against the use of inflammatory rhetoric or exaggerated comparisons, and is often conflated with fallacious arguments of the reductio ad Hitlerum form.


19 posted on 03/05/2008 1:55:37 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: weegee

But he’s not going to be president. I don’t remember any threads on Paul before he ran for president. He’s done. He’ll crawl back into his anonymity.


20 posted on 03/05/2008 1:56:03 PM PST by processing please hold ( "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.")
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