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Obama mentioned among documents recovered by Colombia from slain FARC leader Raúl Reyes
http://www.marthacolmenares.com/2008/03/03/hasta-obama-sale-a-relucir-en-cartas-encontradas-a-reyes/ ^
| Martha Colmenares
Posted on 03/04/2008 11:11:28 AM PST by ElCapitanAmericaLives
Article has the last "letter" from Reyes to the FARC. Below is the relevant section talking about Obama followed by my translation;
"6. Los gringos pedirán cita con el ministro para solicitarle nos comunicara su interés en conversar estos temas. Dicen que el nuevo presidente de su país será Obama y que ellos están interesados en sus compatriotas. Obama no apoyara Plan Colombia ni firma de TLC. Aquí respondimos que nos interesan las relaciones con todos los gobiernos en igualdad de condiciones y que en el caso de Estados Unidos se requiere in pronunciamiento público expresando su interés en conversar con las Farc dada su eterna guerra con nosotros.
Es todo, Abrazos, Raúl."
6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support "Plan Colombia" nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement). Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us.
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To: sanchmo
LOL
When Obama made that statement I was just dumbfounded
‘he wants to pull out now we are winning and after so many gave their lives to get us to there and now if bin ladens makes a base there with his cronies then we go back in.
of course that is if we have enough to back in with after we go into Pakistan and reduce the size of the military
obama and foreign policy really should not go in the same sentence and I have to say Obama’s voters have to be the thickest set of voters which have ever turned out
I’m voting for him because he wants change
OK what change
I don’t know
well how would he change
I don’t know
what has he done while in the senate
I don’t know
do you know anything about him
AH yes he wants change
every Obama voter should be embarrassed and this just proves why the voting age for some should be raised as these students have no idea what they are voting for except he is popular so says the media and he wants change
also this just confirms why we should be asked 5 questions about the candidates before we vote
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posted on
03/04/2008 3:54:36 PM PST
by
manc
To: Rennes Templar
Actually, he’s only half-wrong. The latest Pew poll shows most people think we’re winning and a big majority OPPOSE unilateral withdrawal.
As for whether it was a good idea in the first place, that’s another story...but not really relevant right now.
He was right on the main point, though. Advocating surrender will ensure a Dem loss.
Book it.
Hank
102
posted on
03/04/2008 3:59:18 PM PST
by
County Agent Hank Kimball
(I'll vote for Juan McStain if and when he leaves the Worldwide Church of Global Warming.)
To: supremedoctrine
LOL that would be great. Good idea.
103
posted on
03/04/2008 4:19:53 PM PST
by
Brandie
(Card carrying Dittohead, 24/7 member, Love M.Levin and Laura I. as well. Thank you Jim Robinson 4 FR)
To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
Not only that, it would appear that he is (was—lol) expecting an Obama victory to benefit his fellow Commie-Narco-Terrorists.
To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
Marxists support Obama.
This is news?
To: magellan; ElCapitanAmericaLives; El Conservador; Alia; livius; proud_yank; Kenny Bunk; ...
"
Marxists support Obama.
This is news?"
Not really magellan, but why don't you and everyone else take a look at this.
From our perspective the prospect of ties between the FARC and the Obama campaign is signficant and of great interest to us for the obvious reasons of its relevance to our current election cycle.
But the Colombians have a different take on the
letter from which the extract is quoted at the beginning of this thread.
The website of the Colombian newspaper
El Espectador, who I trust, has put up
a list of all the FARC documents taken from Raul Reyes' computer. They entitle this one, and we are only viewing one clause of it in the introduction to this thread, "Official Alliance FARC and Government of Ecuador" for list item no. 2 (I'm going to post the English translation from the first link above):
"
. . . 2. A summary of the meeting with President Correa's Envoy follows:
a) He asked for a personal meeting in Quito with the Secretariat. He offered assurances and transportation from the border to the meeting place.
b) He expects us to send back a reply as soon as possible, including the meeting date.
c) He asked whether we would like to make this with military support of with support of his minister of state security.
d) He wants to talk to the FARC about the humanitarian agreement, the border policies, the political solution, Ingrid, and Chávez's role. He wants to establish communications with us over the bilateral border.
e) He wants to explain the purposes of Plan Ecuador, through which he intends to offset the harmful effects of Plan Colombia and which is to be implemented over the border.
f) For the purposes of Plan Ecuador, they are asking us for courses on mass organization for people living in the border, which the government would later designate to coordinate work in the border. The advantage in this is the fact that these people are part of the Clandestine Army or in the Bilateral Committee oriented by Front 18.
g) He insisted he is interesting in cooperating with the swap of prisoners, for which he is calling for the release of Moncayo's son or any other prisoner. . . ."
Now it might not get too many of us excited to hear that the government of Ecuador has formed an "official" alliance with the FARC, but I can promise you
it strikes a nerve among Colombians.
We're going to hear a lot more about this in the future. This is not going away quickly. I can smell the coffee boiling all the way up here.
And by the way magellan, good to see you. I've been away a while, my bad!
106
posted on
03/04/2008 7:52:25 PM PST
by
StJacques
(Liberty is always unfinished business)
To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
107
posted on
03/05/2008 12:20:31 AM PST
by
AnimalLover
( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
To: catbertz
lol Alright alright I'm in thanks to everyone in this thread. Oh, really? Wait until McCain signs the national gun-registration law the other side wants, that they'll use to criminalize you for being the way you are.
To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
109
posted on
03/06/2008 2:35:04 AM PST
by
endthematrix
(He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
Photo of FARC leader dead
Le corps de Raul Reyes tué par l'armée colombienne le 1er mars 2008. © AFP.
Link to complete article
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posted on
03/06/2008 2:49:25 AM PST
by
dennisw
(Never bet on a false prophet! <<<||>>> Never bet on Islam!)
To: dennisw
OK, I thought that was a pic of Chairman Mao on his shirt.
Turns out that’s “tirofijo”(sureshort)or Marulanda, the leader of the FARC. So his pajamas consisted of his pair of undies and a shirt of his pathetic leader. What a way to go!
To: ElCapitanAmericaLives
So how much money has Chavez and FARC donated to Obamarama?
“6. The gringos will ask for an appointment with the minister to solicit him to communicate to us his interest in discussing these topics. They say that the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support “Plan Colombia” nor will he sign the TLC (Colombian Free Trade agreement). Here we responded that we are interested in relations with all governments in equality of conditions and that in the case of the US it is required a public pronouncement expressing their interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war against us.”
112
posted on
03/06/2008 11:34:46 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!"- Jim Robinson, Sept, 30, 2007)
To: jerod
bet youre eating your words now!
113
posted on
11/23/2008 8:09:05 AM PST
by
theana
To: theana
Not really... The media ignored the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and everything regarding foreign affairs. They concentrated on the economy and failed to look at the big picture. They essentially misled wobbly Republicans and Independents into forgetting about world affairs, and convinced them that Barry O was the answer to their financial woes.
The reality is that war and international affairs always trump the economy and sadly enough, Obama has abandoned those important matters and deferred them to Hillary Clinton, an odd and probably disastrous decision. The first of many I’m sure.
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posted on
11/25/2008 6:38:13 AM PST
by
jerod
(They were pro-abortion, for gun control & wanted a cleaner environment at all cost - The NAZI party)
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