Posted on 03/02/2008 5:16:05 PM PST by robomatik
“he can exposed for what he is”
But he won’t be. Obama came out of nowhere, and is a resident of the US and Kenya. Foreign money’s on him. By now, there must be trillions of $$ in this election.
The MSM will not rat him out, and the new media isn’t read overwhelmingly. Newsmeddlesomes are owned by corporations now. And our news is propaganda now. Besides, even FR is increasingly infiltrated.
Herselfishness is, well, beyond the pale, as we know.
Either one will turn us over to the blue helmets at the UN and trash the US, giving away the rest of our jewels to the Communist Chinese.
Election fraud is already here. Witness Gore and Kerry and all those places like Wash State that have stolen elections for the dims.
Any way this plays, we need to be on guard. We all know we’re not in Kansas anymore. I pray there is a special place in Hell for those who have so greedily and gleefully undermined this country and its ideals.
Just my thoughts.
Please do not vote for Hillary Clinton. You do not want to give her a very large victory in Ohio and or Texas because she is going to have all the momentum and win the nomination without any fight.
No problem. We’re both in Va. but we both can’t be right. The numbers just don’t bear out a Hillary victory, and if she gets a little closer to the prize, then the super-delegates come in. That’s the point being made by myself and some others here.
I caution against us projecting our personal and political negative feelings onto the rest of the voting public.
She is the more formidable candidate. I hope we're smart enough, if given a choice, to end her political viablity during the primaries.
It really should be that clear - we’re stuck with McCain, someone who’s not that much different from a Democrat. Whether the Dem nominee is Hillary of Obama, they will win. How could McCain beat either of them? So which is worse, Hillary or Obama? Hillary could be reined in, but Obama is the “Messiah,” doncha know? I really believe he’s unstoppable, unless we can stop him now. And if she wins, lots of folks will be fighting Hillary, but very few will oppose Obama.
During the Iran/Iraq war in the '80's, our country's policy was to support whichever side was losing. That way the countries would bleed each other dry. That's the strategy I would follow now in the primaries. Vote for whomever is losing at the moment. That way we ensure that the nomination will go all the way to the convention and exhaust both candidates.
Two months ago I would have voted for Obama. Now I would vote for Hillary. It looks like it's almost over though. Obama is beginning to look inevitable. Yet if Hillary can "hang around," who knows what mischief she could work.
according to what you’re saying, obama should actually hurt her chances if he is VP. She’d probably go with wesley clark to shore up her national security credentials. or perhaps some other white guy so as not to rock things up too much.
The reason why Obama is facing tough questions is because of this close race. If Obama already locked up the nomination there would be no further debates, no more tim russert. just speeches full of “change” and “hope” and “lalala yes we can.”
So what if enemies try to destroy each other? Well it is great when that happens and it helps McCain. Actually Hillary would be easier to beat anyway.
I'm only pointing this out because you just said:
"No. WE, every Conservative and Republican "hates" her."
I'm curious as to where RINO McAmnesty stands in that statement. He's never met a democRAT he didn't like, and I doubt there was ever any that he hated.
So since he said she'd make a good president, he's not REALLY Republican OR a conservative.
Or was he just sucking up to some democRAT at the time he said that? If that's the case, how can we be sure he's ever going to stop sucking up to them?
Only in your dreams, short fuse mccain can blow at any given moment and Hill becomes president. Besides that mccain doesn't have a chance in hell of beating anyone.
NO!!!!! Please do NOT vote for her.
Nothing immoral about it in Texas ml/nj!
We do not have to register as dem or pubs here. Voting is our right and in the primaries we can vote for whom ever we choose to vote for.
Thanks for the ping
Mercy! Is that possible?
But I'm like you - I want to see total democRAT chaos in Denver. Chances like this to help the enemy self-destruct don't come along very often.
Instead of enjoying the show, we have a bunch of school girls running around going "OHH NOOO... Hillary might beat us! Vote for Obama - we've gotta kill her off now!"
Isn't it amazing how many folks can't grasp simple politics? It's Obama and his supporters they better be afraid of, but they want him to beat the witch and gain momentum.
RINO McCain isn't going to say anything negative about Obama. He won't even use Obama's full name, but Hillary will pull out the stops!
Well, this thread is about as long as it can get, so no one will probably read what I have to say, but I’ll say it anyway.
All this talk of propigating Hillary to fracture the Democratic party is a bunch of garbage. Whatever state the Demo party is in, it’s not going to effect the general election. It’s not going to prevent Demos from voting in the general election. The Demos are fired up to get a Demo into office and they will vote for whoever the nominee is just to stop McCain.
And all this talk of Hillary being easier to defeat in the general election is a crock, too. We don’t know that. No one does. How would you feel if your vote helped keep Hillary going, and then she beat John McCain?
I think that any decisions should be based upon a McCain loss, and who would you rather see in office, Obama or Hillary?
And she will, if she becomes the nominee. She can not overcome the natural polarization that exists for most male Democrats, and she won't overcome the black voters who will hate her for ripping off Obama and distroying his chance. Having Hillary as the nominee is the only way McCain can win, because it's not so much he'll win as she'll loose. There is no way McCain can win against Obama.
McCain is more likely to beat Clinton. If Clinton did manage to win, she will not be any more liberal in her intentions that Obama, and likely will realize less of her agenda, because there will not be the groundswell of Camelot BS that would surround Obama.
Therefore, we are more likely to win against Clinton, and if we do not win, I believe the damage will be less than with Obama.
I've done the same thing, too -- Friday I registered as a RAT to vote in the WV RAT primary. My plan is to vote for whomever is behind at the time, since I'd like to see the RAT nomination settled in an ugly fight on the convention floor. If they remain close at the time of the WV RAT primary, I'll probably vote for Hillary, since I think she'd be a better (let me rephrase that -- a "less worse") president than B. Hussein Obama, and since I think she'd be an easier opponent in the general election.
On the other hand, my gorge really rises at the thought of voting for that woman.
A McCain victory against Hillary is not a forgone conclusion. I say get this dangerous B!tch out NOW! We'll have eight months to deal with Obama.
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