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Chavez orders troops to Colombian border (10 battalions, WAR?)
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Posted on 03/02/2008 10:35:00 AM PST by MeanGreen2008

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez is sending 10 battalions of troops to country's border with Colombia.

He's also ordered the Venezuelan embassy in Bogota closed and say all embassy personnel will be withdrawn from Colombia.

The announcements by Venezuela's leftist leader pushed relations with its neighbor to their tensest point of his 9-year presidency.

Chavez is also warning that Colombia could spark a war in South America, calling its U.S.-allied government "a terrorist state" and labeling President Alvaro Uribe (oo-REE'-bay) "a criminal."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: battalion; battalions; chavez; colombia; commie; coward; hugochavez; kneejerk; posturing; psycho; venezuela; venezuelantroops
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To: RouxStir

LOL. Yep, it’s awful hard to tell one bloviating blowhard from another nowadays. ;-)


281 posted on 03/03/2008 5:59:30 AM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --Soccer Mom and proud Rush Conservative with no dog in the presidential race now *sigh*)
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To: Westlander

Pat Robertson was right but I know missionaries who were kicked out and/or their lives were made much more difficult because of what he said.


282 posted on 03/03/2008 6:02:03 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: SoldierDad

“(threat being anything they can use as a reason for padding their pockets)”

Hey, don’t bad mouth corporations, this is a Republican website and as such, we know corporations can do no wrong.


283 posted on 03/03/2008 6:38:36 AM PST by demshateGod (the GOP is dead to me)
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To: processing please hold
For just a moment, imagine 10 battalions of the mexican military sent to our border. How would that strike you?

At first I would think they are trying to surrender. Then I would realize that this is just 15,000 more illegals trying to get over the border and do the work Americans don't want to.
284 posted on 03/03/2008 7:25:58 AM PST by dmartin (Who Dares Wins)
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To: farlander

You live in a dream world if you don’t believe oil companies have any influence on the price of fuel.


285 posted on 03/03/2008 7:30:28 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: xjcsa
So why don't they charge 10 billion dollars a barrel? Why only $100?

Do you think this comment should have even been written? talk about a load.

286 posted on 03/03/2008 7:41:10 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: xjcsa
We buy gasoline for $3 per gallon because the gallon of gasoline is worth more to us than the $3 in our pocket.

No, we're paying more than $3.00 per gallon for fuel because that's the price at the pump. People have to work, have to drive their children to school, have to shop for groceries, have to make trips to the doctor's office. People no longer live within a short trip to these places, and are REQUIRED to purchase that which their vehicles need to run. The oil industry, and the refineries, and the people on Wall St. know this. I'd be willing to bet that people are cutting back on other things to some degree (some more than others) due to the price of fuel. This trend will continue, and the effect will be a free fall into a recession.

287 posted on 03/03/2008 7:47:26 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: Cvengr

“It’s easier to shoot uphill, than down. Plunging fire also has more limited effect than raking fires.”

Now, there’s a unique perspective. Were you in the military? Have you not read Sun Tsu’s “The Art of War”?

“All armies prefer high ground to low and sunny places to dark.”

“Do not climb heights in order to fight. So much for mountain warfare.”


288 posted on 03/03/2008 7:49:32 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: AmericanInTokyo
LOL I think you are right, however that post is worthless with out Pics..... LOL JUST KIDDING.

Chavez has a Napoleon complex for sure.

289 posted on 03/03/2008 7:50:17 AM PST by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: RouxStir
Want to drop the cost of health care, abolish Insurance companies and immediately downward revise the cost of health care by 80%. Insurance Companies are a HUGE middle man and an UTTER scam. Make them illegal, and BLAMO, cost of health care drops by an astounding amount.
290 posted on 03/03/2008 7:54:34 AM PST by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: RouxStir
Want to drop the cost of health care, abolish Insurance companies and immediately downward revise the cost of health care by 80%. Insurance Companies are a HUGE middle man and an UTTER scam. Make them illegal, and BLAMO, cost of health care drops by an astounding amount.
291 posted on 03/03/2008 7:54:35 AM PST by Danae (Remember: Obama = Pull out from Iraq. PLAN on voting, or accept responsibility for the consequences.)
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To: M203M4

Funny...all those ‘peace activists’ loving and admiring a two-bit thug that initiates unprovoked military action with his neighbor states.


292 posted on 03/03/2008 8:17:21 AM PST by griffin (Love Jesus, No Fear!)
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To: SoldierDad
No, we're paying more than $3.00 per gallon for fuel because that's the price at the pump.

And because it's worth what you get.

People have to work, have to drive their children to school, have to shop for groceries, have to make trips to the doctor's office.

There are always alternatives. Before cars existed people didn't buy gasoline; they ordered their lives around the available technology and griped about the price of horse feed. Nobody is *forcing* anybody to drive; the alternatives (bicycles, walking, living closer to work) are unpleasant, so it's worth paying the current price of gas to avoid them.

People no longer live within a short trip to these places, and are REQUIRED to purchase that which their vehicles need to run.

They aren't required to live that far from work. It's a choice that has costs; people have decided the costs are worth it.

The oil industry, and the refineries, and the people on Wall St. know this.

They "know" something that's not true?

I'd be willing to bet that people are cutting back on other things to some degree (some more than others) due to the price of fuel.

That's true; I'd also be willing to bet that people are cutting back on fuel usage.

This trend will continue, and the effect will be a free fall into a recession.

That may be; if it happens the price of fuel will then drop due to lower demand.

293 posted on 03/03/2008 9:52:27 AM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: SoldierDad
Do you think this comment should have even been written? talk about a load.

It was a question, not a comment. What's the answer? If they can charge whatever they want, why not charge even more? Why not $1,000, or $100,000, or $100,000,000,000 per barrel?

294 posted on 03/03/2008 9:53:37 AM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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To: cowtowney

It’s another tactical justification for reverse slope defenses.

Placing an observation post on a hilltop provides max visibility for the observers defending the area. Unfortunately, the observers also become targets for all known enemy in the area. So when an enemy attacks, they are likely to attack those positions with indirect fire first.

Reverse slope defenses are used to help mask friendly positions from enemy observation prior to their commitment to an assault. They also afford the defenders fighting and alternate positions not previously observed by the enemy, giving some element of surprise when they defend. The defenders are also shooting uphill into the enemy, making it easier to produce grazing fire and easier to aim the rifle upon recoil. More accurate rounds downrange in less time than fewer inaccurate rounds in more time.

I believe the Israelis used the tactic in the ‘74 war and in the Golan Heights. First UN observers on the scene afterwards were puzzled by the tactic, but it makes sense.


295 posted on 03/03/2008 9:54:33 AM PST by Cvengr (Fear sees the problem emotion never solves. Faith sees & accepts the solution, problem solved.)
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To: MeanGreen2008

Funny, not so much as a sniff about this on CNN.


296 posted on 03/03/2008 10:05:22 AM PST by Catholic Canadian ( I love Stephen Harper!)
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To: xjcsa
There are always alternatives. Before cars existed people didn't buy gasoline

Yeah, people can starve to death. That would be the alternative.

297 posted on 03/03/2008 10:10:07 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: xjcsa

It was a rhetorical question, and as such, a comment. It was also one that was completely silly.


298 posted on 03/03/2008 10:11:04 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: MeanGreen2008

Colombia has more troops and are better trained.

Colombians have been fighting more or less since the late 40s and quite a bit in their history before that. They are probably the most competent fighting wise peoples in South America.

Venezuela has new airpower but Northern Uncle can help with that.

This would galvanize the citizenry who are already tired of the rebel groups who have become nothing more than extortion rackets

And they never were crazy about Venezuelans who think they are better anyhow since their country is a bit richer due to oil.

Colombia would be a very rugged place to fight a war....even a limited border incursion one.

I see Chavez getting his ass handed to him.


299 posted on 03/03/2008 10:17:15 AM PST by wardaddy (Obama: The candidate for those who think Deliverance was a documentary.)
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To: SoldierDad
It was a rhetorical question, and as such, a comment. It was also one that was completely silly.

I guess it's easier to call it "silly" than to answer it. The answer would call your socialistic view of economics into question.

300 posted on 03/03/2008 10:17:16 AM PST by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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