Voting forMcCain IS voting for a Democrat!!!
NEVER .... will I vote for McCain.
GET OVER IT!!!
Posted on 03/02/2008 7:39:36 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Brit Hume has some blunt advice for conservative Republicans: lay off McCain if you don't want a Dem president.
At the very end of today's Fox News Sunday panel segment, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol was first to make a point along similar lines.
BILL KRISTOL: I'm more conservative than John McCain but I think it would be a mistake for him to just make himself into an orthodox conservative in this election. The reason he is a stronger candidate than a lot of other Republicans would be is that he is a little bit heterodox. He's got his own views, he shouldn't back off on that, I think, actually.
Hume drove the point home in spades.
BRIT HUME: And if the conservatives don't want a President Obama or a President Clinton, they ought to get off McCain's back and let him campaign as whatever he wants to, and campaign from the center.
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I don't want a Dem president, which is why I won't support McCain.
Interesting that you used the term "self-deception".
IMO, it is you who are deceiving yourself, when you claim that McCain is a Republican.
Or has the definition of Republican changed?
Excellent point!
There is no question that is what they would do.
Suppose the "democrat" candidate was someone like Britt Hume, for instance, and the "republican" was Hitlery herself.
No question the steadfast republicans on this forum would advocate for Hitlery over Hume.
Get a clue!"
No, completely ignoring the real enemy of freedom is the real danger.
Get a clue yourself.
"..an Obama-type, running on no substance."
No substance beats the heck out of wrong substance every time.
McCain is the nominee for the Republican party.
He is NOT Hillary or Obama.
Your choices are either the Democrat or Republican nominee.
Your “real enemy of freedom” arguement is specious.
Can we put you down as an anyone-with-an-R guy, who doesn’t care about the candidate’s actual positions provided they have the right party affiliation? That seems about right.
>No question the steadfast republicans on this forum would advocate for Hitlery over Hume.<
A brilliant intellectual arguement, given that these are not the choices in front of us.
What are you anti-McCain zealots going to do to keep a Democrat out of the White House?
And toss away any shred of principle we have left to do so.
It's not about ego. It's about drawing a line in the sand. We all cheered when George W. Bush stood up to Afghanistan and Iraq, but we need to kowtow to a moderate despot in our own party?
Even if many of us will vote R in November, if we allow ourselves to be silenced - especially by the "party unity" folks such as you - then we lose our voice completely. If that's too harsh, consider that the CANDIDATE is supposed to be the one to unite the party, not his servants and cape-holders on the net.
There is so much wrong with this that it is hard to choose where to start. A Democrat president that the Republicans can actively oppose would not be worse than a liberal Republican who they would be called on to support while he sells out to the other side. When your team leader is playing for the other side, your team is going to lose, period.
I keep hearing the too much at stake crap like the next 4 years are more important than the next 50. That is the trade off. If McCain wins the conservatives can pack it in because they will never be a political force again. For the next 50 years your choice will be between outright socialist and just liberal. Nobody yet has told me why McCain would be superior for national defense when he will close Gitmo for image, restrict the interrogation of terrorists, clog the courts with enemy combatants under the guidance of the ACLU, and open the southern border. Where's the security part?
The trade off is not eight years. It took only 2 years after the first Clinton took office for the Conservatives to take over Congress. The result was Welfare reform, capital gains tax cuts and a balanced budget. For the last six years of his administration, Clinton achieved next to nothing on his agenda. His main focus was blocking the Republicans in Congress and keeping his butt in office. Liberal judges were appointed to replace liberal judges, the balance did not change.
If McCain wins you will get increases in the Democrats in Congress. You will get amnesty (sooner or later) after he window dresses the border security. You will get new restrictions on business (look at his history on the commerce committee... McCain is anti-business), you will get global warming crap. You will get more restrictions on energy production and even higher gas prices. You will get economic direction from someone who admittedly doesn't understand economics and has never had to. You will get moderate judges, remember Alito is too conservative. You will get a Commander in Chief who graduated at the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy whose biggest claim to fame is getting shot down and captured. For four years you will have Republican who will sell you out to the Democrats time after time while the Republicans get blamed for anything that goes wrong. After that you will get Democrats for as many years as you can count. Conservatives will be done as a political force. When you throw away your principles and convictions, they are gone. You don't get to go back and pick them up later.
Nonsense. I had Arnold Schwarzenkennedy pegged as a liberal RINO before he even threw his hat in the gubenatorial ring in Kollyfornyuh. Ditto for RINO Bloomberg and Senator McCain.
Look, I know you've got to assuage your guilty conscience for supporting a liberal, but for cryin' out loud...stop whining when the rest of us refuse to join you in your liberal suicide pact.
BTTT! Beautifully and concisely stated.
Voting forMcCain IS voting for a Democrat!!!
NEVER .... will I vote for McCain.
GET OVER IT!!!
I agree it won’t be ideal....but will be a heck of a lot better than Hillary’s twin Ruth “Buzzy” Ginsberg!
I guess you’re giving up your right to post complaints about Hillary or Obama after November?
McCain voted to confirm the appointment of Ruth Bader Ginsberg to the United States Supreme Court.
Well, I do reserve the right to argue with McCain when I think he is wrong, but Hume does have a very valid point.
You can win by losing.
Never forget 1994.
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