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1 posted on 02/29/2008 7:13:14 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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I really , really like that congress is upset but why can’t we build our own? I’m concerned about security in France also.


2 posted on 02/29/2008 7:18:22 PM PST by CindyDawg
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Pratt and Whitney is sure upset by the decision. I’m in Connecticut and they are all over the radio talking about they build a better engine for the tanker.


3 posted on 02/29/2008 7:20:05 PM PST by mojo114
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I really don’t like this either but since it has caused Murray and Cantwell to go into hysterics, I think I’ll lean back, eat some popcorn through my smirk and sit this one out.


5 posted on 02/29/2008 7:22:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (In November, we're going to be able to elect politicians who say they can change the weather. YAY!)
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Everyone should call/email every Congressional representative you have (I already have) to protest this foolish decision. It is extremely offensive that my tax money is being given to the parent of Airbus. However, it is even more offensive that we are allowing a foreign country to supply the airframe for a defensive project. It is not only offensive, it is extremely, absolutely stupid!

President Bush, where are you? You are the Commander in Chief, and you need to quash this idiocy! American defensive programs need to be built by Americans! Because you cannot predict who our enemies are going to be in 20 years!


8 posted on 02/29/2008 7:24:31 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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Whoot! Way to go Northrop Grumman!


10 posted on 02/29/2008 7:25:59 PM PST by chaos_5 (Vote for change - ObamaNation 2008!)
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I would like to know why they did this. If it’s payback to congress for sitting on bills and not supporting the military, I can support this. I wish they would have picked a small American company though.


11 posted on 02/29/2008 7:26:07 PM PST by CindyDawg
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US manufacturer's need to get their sh*t together and build the better cargo aircraft....this is BS....stop whining and find out why we got our asses handed to us....find the problem and fix it....or is it politicians/military who have been bought off by foreign interests (Clinton's)....
12 posted on 02/29/2008 7:26:27 PM PST by homeguard ((Charlie Don't Surf!))
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To: microgood; liberallarry; cmsgop; shaggy eel; RayChuang88; Larry Lucido; namsman; jpsb; decimon; ...

If you want on or off this aerospace ping list, please contact Paleo Conservative or phantomworker by Freep mail.

Here are some other related threads.

EADS/Northrop upsets Boeing in Air Force tanker competition — analyst
Seattle Times ^ | February 29, 2008 | Dominic Gates

Posted on 02/29/2008 3:53:16 PM CST by skeptoid




Northrop/EADS wins [Air Force] tanker contract
The Mobile Press-Register ^ | 02/29/2008 | George Talbot

Posted on 02/29/2008 3:54:02 PM CST by Radio Free Tuscaloosa


13 posted on 02/29/2008 7:27:03 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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Hope Congress un funds the Air force for a few years.
And makes them all wear Berets and knickers.

Best Bid being awarded to a foreign nation on a security project is the equivalent to Bernard Shaw saying he needed to remain impartial with the info he had while at the El Rahseedd hotel.

If this happens I may need to vote for Osama to slow the money being spent offshore for future military projects.


14 posted on 02/29/2008 7:27:08 PM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great for the libs- why is Obama doing so well?)
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And to think it all began with a mess of porridge...


15 posted on 02/29/2008 7:29:15 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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I’m not outraged. My stock went way up today, and my retirement fund is tied to Northrop.


16 posted on 02/29/2008 7:29:34 PM PST by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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Alabama won this contract fair and square. Boeing was having production problems on other contracts. More importantly, the Northrup-EADS tanker will hold 3 times as much fuel and can supply fuel in flight in two different ways. It is clearly the better plane for the Air Force. And it’s being manufacured in Sweet Home Alabama!!


20 posted on 02/29/2008 7:31:43 PM PST by CWW (Make the most of the loss, and regroup for 2008!!)
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Given the tone of the article, can one conclude that the muslims and Chinese are unhappy with this development?

Additional reporting by Andrea Shalal-Esa, editing by Richard Chang

22 posted on 02/29/2008 7:34:14 PM PST by PAR35
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We should have seen what Iran could offer.

Fewer Muslims there than in France.


34 posted on 02/29/2008 7:43:46 PM PST by NoLibZone (If the Clinton years were so great for the libs- why is Obama doing so well?)
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Just damn!

Who was that Senator that brags that he put the kibosh on the Boeing deal?

Was it John Kerry who was brought up in France?

Oh yeah, that guy that was a war prisoner and says he's a conservative.

35 posted on 02/29/2008 7:45:35 PM PST by chuckles
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41 posted on 02/29/2008 7:57:50 PM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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Here's a link to another story. I was forced to excerpt.

SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/353313_tankereverett01.html

Dismay in Everett over tanker deal

Last updated February 29, 2008 6:06 p.m. PT

By JOSEPH TARTAKOFF
P-I REPORTER

EVERETT -- At Machinists Lodge 751, across the street from Boeing's plant, workers were outraged by the shocking news Friday that the Air Force contract to build refueling tankers would not be theirs.

The main gathering room had been prepped for the media in anticipation of a celebration, with an over-sized poster of a tanker being fueled, along with the words, "The American Dream Bring It Home!"

But within a half hour of the announcement that Boeing had lost the deal to a team of Northrop Grumman and Airbus parent EADS, union organizers had plastered the room with posters scrawled with slogans such as, "We Will Get a New Tanker Made in France?", "R.I.P. U.S. Built Tanker," and "How could this happen?"

When Tom Wroblewski, the president of the Machinists union, addressed the gathered workers and media and mentioned that the winner was a "European company," he was interrupted with shouts of "Boo!"

"It is a paper airplane only," he said, adding that that plant for the EADS-Northrop tanker still needed to be built in Mobile, Ala., while Boeing workers could have started work right away on a 767 tanker.

Almost all of the workers at the hall said they expected Boeing to land the lucrative contract.

Sandy Hastings, a quality assurance lab technician, who was putting up posters in the main room, said it was "a shock that they would send something for the military somewhere else other than here."

Excerpt Click on link to read the full story


43 posted on 02/29/2008 8:00:11 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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Gee, you would have thought that Sen. Obama could have saved the deal being as how he is such a wise and effective senator for Illinois < /s>


45 posted on 02/29/2008 8:00:25 PM PST by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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A bad decision in every possible way. I’m stunned.

This benefits no less than John McCain, who did his level best to deny Boeing the business. Google on [mccain boeing tanker scandal] for more info.

It’s bad, and sad.


46 posted on 02/29/2008 8:02:40 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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After collapsing to build a fence at the Mexican border, Boeing needs some breathing room.
After solving this southern border fence problem they might want to catch up with Airbus to design a suitable and competitive tanker for in air refueling.
Both Senators Cantwell and Murray might want to hold their breath as the Air Force opted for optimum functioning without need to later do it all over again.
53 posted on 02/29/2008 8:11:20 PM PST by hermgem (Will Olmr)
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