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1 posted on 02/26/2008 11:06:54 AM PST by brwnsuga
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‘What do you say we all hold our fire until the defendant goes on trial?’

As it stands, he is innocent, until proven guilty.

2 posted on 02/26/2008 11:10:22 AM PST by BGHater ($2300 is the limit of your Free Speech.)
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Was Detective Shivers executing a no-knock entry?


3 posted on 02/26/2008 11:10:39 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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bump


4 posted on 02/26/2008 11:16:30 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Benedict Arnold was against the Terrorist Surveillance Program)
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Wait a minute/... guilty of what again?

Defending his home? Was there any real evidence to suggest a warrant? Was it the right house even?

If I hear someone crashing into MY home in the middle of the night, there’s going to be shots fired and someone is going down. Maybe me, maybe a police officer, but there’d better be no ONE kicking my door in, in the middle of the night without at least coming to talk to me in the DAY time first (I’m not a criminal, and there wouldn’t be a reason for a warrant.... in the first place).... So, someone kicking in MY door is probably going to get shot too. Is that MURDER? No. It’s defending my home.


7 posted on 02/26/2008 11:28:48 AM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for lastest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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Here’s an article posted/discussed at the time of the original incident:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956090/posts


16 posted on 02/26/2008 11:43:08 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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Hopefully, Kerry Dougherty will be the victim of a no knock raid where he and his family are gunned down by stupid law enforcement officers who had the wrong house. It would be poetic justice.


18 posted on 02/26/2008 11:49:19 AM PST by monday
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Hmm, 8:30. Okay, if they had knocked, and he’d shot through the door, I’d say fine, hang him.

But if the cops were busting in for anything less than a life-or-death emergency, like a hostage situation, then he gets the benefit of the doubt for defending his home, IMO.


34 posted on 02/26/2008 12:20:04 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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KILLER OR HERO? LET'S WAIT FOR FACTS BEFORE WE PASS JUDGEMENT

It could be that he is both. What is clear, is that the officer is a victim; most likely of his superiors.

35 posted on 02/26/2008 12:21:18 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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We can all agree that this is a sad and troubling case, one that raises serious questions about Chesapeake police procedures. Yet it raises equally vexing questions about the duties and responsibilities of private citizens who choose to exercise their Second Amendment rights.

It's more of a 5th Amendment right and a common law right to defend ones castle. The 2nd Amendment gives the citizen the right to defend his 5th Amendment rights against others, INCLUDING THE GOVERNMENT.

42 posted on 02/26/2008 12:27:38 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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Sounds like a job for Jerry Spense.


45 posted on 02/26/2008 12:32:30 PM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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He killed the cop who was outside the house when they woke him up at 8:30PM?


60 posted on 02/26/2008 1:20:30 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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Was this one of those no-knock warrants?


73 posted on 02/26/2008 4:06:20 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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I have seen lots of rhetoric about how the police handled the situation, but I haven’t seen anything about the participation of the Judge who signed the Warrant with the specific no knock provision. Judges are supposed to insert independent, cool headed, examination of the Affidavit. They are to demand that the probable cause statements are sufficient and complete. They are to inquire if any exculpatory information exists. Before they authorize and order the execution of a no knock warrant, they are expected to rigorously examine the reasons that would justify unannounced entry. Still, something went terribly wrong and none of us were there to know the facts. We just bring our own bias to the results.


84 posted on 02/26/2008 6:42:30 PM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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What a pointless article. All she is doing is blabbing that nobody should form an opinion on the matter until it goes to trail. Sorry woman, but we do that all the time in society.


103 posted on 02/28/2008 11:14:35 AM PST by Nate505
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