Posted on 02/26/2008 8:22:55 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
Gee John....just "up" armor your limo. I see from other threads the elites are on the .50 bandwagon again.
I don’t dress up and pretend to be a liberal. Why do they try to act conservative? It just doesn’t work. Scumbags.
Now how many would any reasonable person deduct from that total that were gang-bangers shooting each other ( no loss there) and criminals shot by cops?
My guess would be 75%.
This guy must be one of those hard line right wing conservatives who are coming out for Obama. Har har.
There is so much in this article that is an outright lie that it is very difficult to believe ANY of the so-called facts this “Gun owner” puts forth. Antagonists to a particular ideology eventually get so frustrated and so conditioned in their stretching of the facts and data to make their case seem reasonable that they soon drop the truth altogether. A lie is a lie is a lie is a lie....until you tell it so often that it BECOMES the truth....
That’s right, AHSA is a false-flag organization that was started about 2-3 years ago by antis. It gets unquestioning legitamacy from liberal mainstream media. It gets its money from the usual anti-gun funding sources. Someone pointed out that that their membership was so low (they claim something like a few hundred) that their annual dues couldn’t even pay the annual salary of its president, and the AHSA replied that large donations provide most of their money.
Mass having the second lowest gun death rate sounds unlikely—does anyone know how to check that?
Adding something like the terror watchlist for the criminal check system would be a total boondoggle. Names are added to that list as a CYA measure for various security agencies, and a huge number of Americans would lose a basic civil right over that.
Most of the guns at gunshows are sold by licensed dealers who run the criminal checks anyway.
The thing that bothers me the most about running criminal checks on all private party sales is you can’t even sell a gun to your neighbor without driving to a gun store first and paying 50 bucks or so.
Buying a firearm at a gun show where I live in California (where we have to do the check) sounds like more of a hassle than its worth, so I have never even attempted it. I would just buy a gun off the Internet anyway if my local gun store didn’t have one, and those have to be shipped to a gun store, which runs you through the criminal check system.
I recent fed DOJ study showed that criminals almost never buy their guns at a gunshow anyway. They get them from robberies, then trade tham on the black market.
He is no more a “staunch supporter of the Second Amendment” than Sarah Brady or Ted Kennedy. NONE of his suggestions would have stopped the murders at NIU or VT. They would only make it more difficult for law abiding people to privately purchase a firearm.
According to the latest figures in the Statistical Abstract of the United States 2008, Table 111.
In 2004, the rate of death per 100,000 from firearms was 4.0 for homicide, and 5.7 for suicide. For the same year, the rate of death from vehicle accidents was 16.6. To get these as percentages, move the decimal point three places to the left.
Sounds awesome but unlikely. If it's true, can anyone point me in the direction of one of these gun shows in the northeast(or closest to here)?
I probably wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for a waiting period. If they gave me a gun when I wanted it, bad things could have happened.
Waiting periods of a few days for first-time buyers help prevent crimes of passion and suicide.
But waiting as long as 30 days or waiting if you already own a gun are dumb.
The NRA says that not even people on the suspected terrorist watch list should be barred from purchasing guns because -- are you ready for this? -- "we do not know how people are put on the list" and "many times people are victims of mistaken identity."
The NRA is right.
"Suspected terrorist" watch lists are just ripe for abuse. The government can put you on one without any warning, with no evidence, and once you're on it there is no recourse, no way to get off.
Criminal convictions are one thing. But your name on some list somewhere? No way.
If this was not a blatant lie, then it would be possible for such a super-majority to amend the Constitution practically overnight. The author only wishes it were true. If not for lies, the anti-gunners would have very little to say.
>>If they gave me a gun when I wanted it, bad things could have happened<<
Not to sound harsh,but I think “I would have made bad things happen” would be a more appropriate phrase.
Does that mean that you decided not to complete a purchase and that you don't own a gun today?
I live close to the National NRA Office. I see them everyday out in the street handing out guns. /sarcasm
That's an indisputable fact. Remember the incident where Senator Ted Kennedy got on the list somehow? As dangerous as he may be to anyone foolish enough to accept a ride from him, I doubt that he poses any risk whatsoever of being part of a terrorist hijacking plot.
The fact that this joker doesn't address the many incidents of errors (and possibly petty bureaucratic "screw you" harassment) associated with these lists is sufficient in itself to dismiss his opinion as worthless.
Add in "criminals shot by their intended victims" and you're probably in the 80%-90% range.
I never wanted to shoot anyone else. I was fighting depression and almost lost the battle that day. You're not the same person when the disease takes control.
Does that mean that you decided not to complete a purchase and that you don't own a gun today?
I don't own one today for the above reason. I'm more scared of myself than the very small handful of crimes that happen in this town.
I feel good now but want to wait a few years to make sure symptoms don't come back. I didn't take any of the meds but changed my diet to natural vitamin-rich foods instead.
IMO, all the extreme junk food I used to eat caused the depression. There are lots of chemicals in food that are never tested for psychological effects.
oops. see my #39.
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