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Had enough gun violence? A gun advocate speaks out [Barf Alert]
North Jersey.com ^ | 2/25/08 | JOHN E. ROSENTHAL

Posted on 02/26/2008 8:22:55 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

By putting guns into the hands of terrorists, criminals and the mentally ill, the NRA helped create a society where defense by guns becomes mandatory.

LET'S GET THIS out of the way. I am a gun owner and a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment. What I do not support is extending the rights embedded in the Second Amendment to terrorists, criminals and children.

In the wake of a horrific campus shooting at Northern Illinois University, where 21 students were shot, we're reminded again that national gun laws must be strengthened.

Sadly, gun laws have only been weakened since the massacres at Columbine High School and Virginia Tech. To be sure, these headline-grabbing mass shootings may not have been preventable. But beyond the headlines, consider this news: 83 Americans die each and every day from gun violence. And much of that violence is very preventable.

Current federal law allows an unlimited number of easily concealable handguns and military-style weapons to be sold privately in 32 states without a criminal background check or an ID. Why do we take such a hands-off approach to these dangerous weapons? The National Rifle Association and the gun industry lobby are a big part of the answer.

You have to show ID to purchase alcohol or cigarettes. But if you want a Barrett .50-caliber sniper rifle (capable of penetrating steel and taking out an armored vehicle from more than a mile) you need only to show up at one of 5,000 legal gun shows and fork over the cash -- no ID or background check required! It is well documented that al-Qaida, Hezbollah and IRA terrorists have exploited this loophole in U.S. gun laws to purchase military-style weapons from "private sellers" at gun shows.

In a recent radio debate with me, an NRA official confirmed that the organization is opposed to uniform criminal background checks for fear they will "shut down gun shows." The NRA says that not even people on the suspected terrorist watch list should be barred from purchasing guns because -- are you ready for this? -- "we do not know how people are put on the list" and "many times people are victims of mistaken identity."

Eighty-nine percent of Americans said they wanted mandatory background checks for anyone buying a gun, according to a 2007 Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research and The Tarrance Group survey. But the NRA has continually blocked such common-sense legislation as mandatory background checks and five-day waiting periods to buy a handgun. NRA policies handcuff national law enforcement's ability to effectively regulate private gun sales, gun shows, and even the sharing of crime-gun trace data within the law enforcement community.

By putting guns into the hands of terrorists, criminals and the mentally ill, the NRA helped create a society where defense by guns becomes mandatory. Meanwhile, the bank accounts of the NRA leaders and lobbyists are enriched and congressional coffers are replenished. Gun manufacturers reinforce this cycle by investing in the NRA.

$22 million to influence candidates

According to Federal Elections Commission reports, the NRA has spent more than $22 million on congressional candidates in order to support its agenda during the past four election cycles. In 2004, the NRA spent nearly $4 million to reelect George W. Bush.

Immunity from lawsuits and freedom from consumer protection regulations and manufacturing standards are just a few of the benefits delivered by the NRA and provided by a complicit president and Congress.

Massachusetts stands out as an example of a state that has successful gun violence prevention legislation. Along with 17 other states, it has enacted background checks for all gun sales. Only Hawaii has a firearms fatality rate lower than that of Massachusetts. Hawaii is fortunate; bordered by water, it is less accessible to gun traffickers than Massachusetts, where more than 60 percent of guns traced to crime come from out of state.

Bay State neighbors New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine are three of the top four crime-gun source states for Massachusetts, where guns are easily purchased by prohibited buyers without a background check or an ID.

Most law-abiding citizens like me buy guns from federally licensed dealers required to perform background checks. Incredibly, federal law allows criminals and terrorists who can't pass background checks to easily buy guns from private individuals in 32 states without detection.

The bloodshed in our communities and schools is largely preventable. Of course, no law is going to stop violence completely, but shouldn't we help prevent the tragedies we can by weeding out the criminals? It is time for reasonable people to insist that Congress enact sensible and consistent federal laws that require criminal background checks for all gun sales in the United States.

[John E. Rosenthal is cofounder of Stop Handgun Violence, the American Hunters and Shooters Association, and Common Sense About Kids and Guns.]


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: ahsa; banglist; gunfreezone; johnerosenthal; secondamendment
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1 posted on 02/26/2008 8:22:59 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim
I am ... a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment.

Liar.

2 posted on 02/26/2008 8:26:22 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: kiriath_jearim

If this weren’t so pathetic, it would be laughable.


3 posted on 02/26/2008 8:27:03 AM PST by basil (Support the Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Bay State neighbors New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine are three of the top four crime-gun source states for Massachusetts, where guns are easily purchased by prohibited buyers without a background check or an ID.

I call BS on this as well.

5 posted on 02/26/2008 8:28:18 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: kiriath_jearim

I call BS on this guy.


6 posted on 02/26/2008 8:29:42 AM PST by alarm rider ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -)
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To: kiriath_jearim

We fewer shootings and assaults here the “Wild Wild West”when everyone carried a gun and drawing down on someone meant sure retaliation.


7 posted on 02/26/2008 8:29:49 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: kiriath_jearim
hmmm...

83 Americans die each and every day from gun violence.

Let's see: (83 people/day)(365 days/year)=30295 people/year

Yet, we live in a nation of approximately 300 million people - so (~30,000/300,000,000)(100) = 0.01% of the total population die every year from guns. Anyone have the total death stats/year in this country? Need this for the next step...

8 posted on 02/26/2008 8:29:50 AM PST by Andonius_99 (There are two sides to every issue. One is right, the other is wrong; but the middle is always evil.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

A leopard trying to change/conceal his spots.


9 posted on 02/26/2008 8:31:59 AM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: Andonius_99

I wonder how many of that 83 are criminals?


10 posted on 02/26/2008 8:32:03 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I saw the movie “The Brave One” over the weekend. There is a scene in that movie where Jody Foster needs to buy a handgun and is told she will have to wait 30 days.

She replies ‘I won’t SURVIVE 30 days’. She of course gets one on the black market.
(It was a pretty good film)

I think waiting periods are the stupidest things ever. (maybe not as stupid as warning labels on hot coffee, but pretty close)


11 posted on 02/26/2008 8:32:20 AM PST by the lastbestlady (I now believe that we have two lives; the life we learn with and the life we live with after that.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

[John E. Rosenthal is cofounder of Stop Handgun Violence, the American Hunters and Shooters Association, and Common Sense About Kids and Guns.]

This is that Anti-Gun front group pimping as a “Pro-Gun” organization. Another group with 3 members and lots of money from somewhere. Check out their history.


12 posted on 02/26/2008 8:32:29 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: headstamp 2

American Hunters and Shooters Association that is.


13 posted on 02/26/2008 8:34:22 AM PST by headstamp 2 (Been here before)
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To: kiriath_jearim
It’s really simple. Liberalism, or the more properly labeled Socialism, breeds, promotes, and increases crime. The more Socialistic/liberal the district, state, etc, the higher the crime rate.
14 posted on 02/26/2008 8:35:00 AM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Andonius_99
30295 people/year Oh, let's not confuse things with facts and correct statistics. :-)

30,000 people would be approximately the same number as die in traffic accidents yearly in America.

15 posted on 02/26/2008 8:35:03 AM PST by wbill
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To: kiriath_jearim

I have had enough insults to facts and logic, especially by people who are foolish enough to think that gun control = crime control. It is dangerous enough that they hold this opinion privately, but it is especially dangerous when they insist this must be public policy and are willing to use the credible threat of deadly force by armed agents of government to limit my private self defense options.


16 posted on 02/26/2008 8:39:43 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Brett66

82...


17 posted on 02/26/2008 8:42:22 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (I'm a Patriot Guard Rider..www.patriotguard.org for info on joining.You DON'T have to ride to belong)
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To: kiriath_jearim
By putting guns into the hands of terrorists, criminals and the mentally ill, the NRA helped create a society where defense by guns becomes mandatory.

Not just a liar, but a moron as well. There have ALWAYS been criminals, crazies, and despots who would attempt to victimize the general populace. The laws only disarm the very people who could benefit the most from being armed in the first place.

Disarming law abiding citizens does not protect law abiding citizens. It just makes them easier to attack.

18 posted on 02/26/2008 8:43:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: headstamp 2

I’m still wondering why they haven’t had fraud charges filed against them. This is about as blatant a fraud as it gets.


19 posted on 02/26/2008 8:45:42 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: kiriath_jearim
I've heard of the American Hunters and Shooters Assn. and a google search really reveals who they are. They are a sheep in wolf's clothing that was discretely set up by Hillary, the DNC and the Brady Bunch.

Their membership numbers are questionable and their funding is even more questionable.........Their website cleverly portrays them as a pro-hunting, pro-gun and pro-safety group but underneath that camoflage, there is nothing pro-second amendment about them.

20 posted on 02/26/2008 8:46:05 AM PST by Hot Tabasco ( Don’t go messing with Smokey Taylor. He just bought a whole bunch of fresh ammo.)
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