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Would Obama Destroy McCain?
Red State ^ | Feb. 25, 2008 | By Dan McLaughlin

Posted on 02/25/2008 4:28:29 PM PST by jdm

So we have been treated of late to the usual chorus of claims that the GOP is doomed, doomed I tell you, at the polls if McCain faces Obama. Well, Rasmussen's daily tracker has McCain pulling ahead of Obama the past 4 days, and now up 47-43 in a national head-to-head matchup. The RCP multi-poll average still gives a 47-43 nod to Obama. (McCain's matchup with Hillary is more favorable). But if you looked at polls taken between January 28 and March 7 of 2004, you would see Kerry leading Bush in 15 polls, to 7 showing Bush ahead and 3 ties, and an unweighted average result of 47.48 for Kerry to 45.2 for Bush. Gerald Ford trailed by 33 points in August and lost by 2. (H/T) George HW Bush trailed by 17 in July and won by a healthy margin. Those are the most famous examples, but hardly the only ones.

But, you say, huge primary turnout for the Democrats presages a landslide? Maybe, but Democrats traditionally have much higher primary turnout than the GOP:

That's right: Democratic turnout in the primaries was 47% higher than GOP turnout in 1980, and 89% higher in 1988. Any Democrats looking to replay those races?

Folks, it's a long way to November. Yes, you can slice and dice the polls cited above to make the point that polling (1) has its flaws and (2) can be badly abused if you don't distinguish between good polls and bad. And that's even aside from the fact that these are national polls whereas the election is actually 50 statewide elections. But the point is, there is simply no evidence right now that Obama, whose real record is very unknown to the national electorate and who has never run a campaign against anything resembling a competent Republican opponent, has this race in the bag. He may justifiably be favored over McCain, if you had to put money on this race today. But he is not unbeatable, or if he is the evidence of that is as yet undetectable.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; mccain; obama
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1 posted on 02/25/2008 4:28:30 PM PST by jdm
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To: jdm

I’m not a big fan of McCain’s-but if a bunch of little pukes in black pajamas couldn’t destroy him barack osama won’t.


2 posted on 02/25/2008 4:33:02 PM PST by mrmargaritaville
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To: jdm

thank you for the perspective of real numbers


3 posted on 02/25/2008 4:33:21 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: jdm
Obama's Negatives Going Up (Barack's negatives are ten points higher than John McCain currently)
4 posted on 02/25/2008 4:35:45 PM PST by Polybius
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To: mrmargaritaville

Obama’s dirty laundry hasn’t been exposed yet nor has anyone dug into his background. IMO, there’s plenty to be exposed so the American public get a good idea what a Liberal traitor he is and just how dangerous he would be to our security, freedom, and our children and grandchildren’s futures. Buyer/voter beware!!!


5 posted on 02/25/2008 4:36:00 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jdm

I don’t think Obama will destroy McCain, at least I hope not.


6 posted on 02/25/2008 4:37:40 PM PST by madison10
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Exactly.

I bet Hillary will pull out all the stops before/if she gives in.

There might not be much left of Obama come November.


7 posted on 02/25/2008 4:39:12 PM PST by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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To: jdm
Can Obama be beaten?

...like a DRUM, baby! Like a drum.


8 posted on 02/25/2008 4:40:50 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Retire Ron Paul! Support Chris Peden (www.chrispeden.org))
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To: jdm

I’m not convinced that a lot of Hillary’s voters will vote for Obama in the general election. I also think some of Obama’s support may evaporate in the general.


9 posted on 02/25/2008 4:42:08 PM PST by umgud
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To: Mrs.Z

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007

Washington, DC -Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2007 list of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians.” The list, in alphabetical order, includes:

1. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY): In addition to her long and sordid ethics record, Senator Hillary Clinton took a lot of heat in 2007 - and rightly so - for blocking the release her official White House records. Many suspect these records contain a treasure trove of information related to her role in a number of serious Clinton-era scandals. Moreover, in March 2007, Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint against Senator Clinton for filing false financial disclosure forms with the U.S. Senate (again). And Hillary’s top campaign contributor, Norman Hsu, was exposed as a felon and a fugitive from justice in 2007. Hsu pleaded guilt to one count of grand theft for defrauding investors as part of a multi-million dollar Ponzi scheme.

8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,0 00 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.


10 posted on 02/25/2008 4:42:43 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: jdm
Depends. Right now Obama is out-Clintoning Clinton.

If the MeCain camp studies up on history, they can get ahead of the curve.

11 posted on 02/25/2008 4:43:14 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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47-43, and this is with wall to wall positive coverage for Che Obama, and Mad John with a fractured base?

That is not bad at all, and Hilde will go Scorched Earth before she ever just rolls over and plays dead, the Dhimmis are in for a bloody fight indeed.

McCain on the other hand, can now consolidate as much as possible his support, but BOTH Nominees will be infected with “Senatoritis” meaning no one can tell them anything.


12 posted on 02/25/2008 4:44:18 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3/Cry havoc and let slip the RINOS)
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To: mrmargaritaville
Excellent post. You nailed it. If Obama gets the nomination, he is about to get steam rolled. Majority of Americans will not vote for a HUSSEIN during the WOT, that WILL NOT put his hand over his heart during our pledge of allegiance or wear a U.S. flag pin on his lapel. Obama is going to get the ole Osama beat down.
13 posted on 02/25/2008 4:44:55 PM PST by jrooney (Ron Paul called Reagan a Dramatic Failure and thinks he is smarter than Abe Lincoln.)
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To: jdm

I’d say the fact that Barry is riding as high as he is now in the polls on the Dem side, drawing huge crowds, and the subject of a fawning media, and still losing to McCain - , is a relatively positive sign right now. These head to head polls are fairly meaningless, but right now the GOP as a party is down, McCain has been wildly unpopular among the right, and Obama is trouncing the shrew. Despite all those factors, the fact that McCain is slightly ahead is very promising.


14 posted on 02/25/2008 4:46:23 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: jdm
Not destroyed, but McCain would definitely have some work to do.

Though he should be helped by people's Obama-fanaticism waning--he can't be the apple of modern Americans' eyes indefinitely.

15 posted on 02/25/2008 4:47:58 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: ilgipper

I’m not a McCain fan (obviously, if anyone’s been reading my posts), but he would likely beat Obama.


16 posted on 02/25/2008 4:51:01 PM PST by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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To: jdm

Let’s see where we are in October.


17 posted on 02/25/2008 4:51:14 PM PST by LiberConservative
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To: jdm
Obama will do whatever he wishes, regardless of anyone else.


18 posted on 02/25/2008 4:51:57 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
"For the first time in her life? Coming from the realm in which Michelle Obama has lived her adult life — Princeton, Harvard Law, a top law firm, $342,000-a year job doing community .........."
19 posted on 02/25/2008 4:53:37 PM PST by prognostigaator
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To: ExTexasRedhead

>>Obama’s dirty laundry hasn’t been exposed yet nor has anyone dug into his background.

This guy has a pretty good start:

http://www.freedomsenemies.com/_more/obama.htm


20 posted on 02/25/2008 4:53:58 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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