Posted on 02/24/2008 4:18:12 PM PST by no nau
For that matter 150 DAYS ago...after all Pluto was a planet, now i’s not but only to SOME astronomers.
Can’t wait to see what the “science” is on the drugs we’re led to believe are “good” (or bad) for us next week!
Give that man a cigar.
Also, to paraphrase another poster who was involved in experiments that simulated great periods of time in order to try to observe evolution processes in fast motion, the harmful mutations that were actually observed in the experiments cast doubt on the integrity of macroevolution ideas (corrections welcome).
The truth of the matter is that evolutionists long ago resorted to "scientifically verifying" their claims about evolution by putting on "lawyer's hats, trying to "sell the "jury," that's people like you and me, their subjective conclusions about their inconclusive evolution evidence. Again, given that people don't understand the importance of proper scientific experimentation to verify scientific facts, they swallowed the claims of evolutionists about macroevolution ideas.
The bottom line is that macroevolution ideas are based on faith as much as Christian beliefs in Genesis are. Unlike evolutionists, however, most Christians are at least upfront about their ideas being based on faith as opposed to being scientifically verified.
“called the Theory of Flight. I suppose you have doubts about that as well?”
Just because I picked on Evolution doesn’t mean I don’t accept some of it’s premises. Everything evolves. It must or it won’t survive.
The Theory of Flight? There are many different types of Flight, and the one that keeps a jet airliner aloft still has some unknowns.
Our ‘theory’ on Flight does keep changing.
Doubters are the ones who come up with new methods for keeping those planes in the air. People who ‘doubt’ that the ‘current’ theory is the only theory.
Let’s not leave out the Boy Scouts being labeled a hate group by the so-called “progressives” because they reject the homosexual agenda!
With my mind. Do you have any other options?
Don’t forget to don the flame suit.
“called the Theory of Flight. I suppose you have doubts about that as well?”
I don’t see how they can.
Attempts are made to measure the ‘size’ of the Universe, it’s ‘weight’, it’s ‘shape’, it’s age, and where the ‘center’ is.
These things could only be measured if the Universe were ‘finite’.
So, you either think it is ‘finite’, or that it is ‘infinite’.
If it is infinite, then it could not start nor end.
It, like GOD, simply ‘is’.
The data is the same. It’s the interpretation of the information that’s what’s different.
You've said that repeatedly on this thread and you know its not true.
You are trying to equate religious belief with scientific investigation. They are not the same, and to claim otherwise is dishonest. They differ in nearly all respects.
Here is a good example:
ANSWERS IN GENESIS STATEMENT OF FAITH(A) PRIORITIES
1. The scientific aspects of creation are important, but are secondary in importance to the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
2. The doctrines of Creator and Creation cannot ultimately be divorced from the gospel of Jesus Christ.(B) BASICS
1. The 66 books of the Bible are the written Word of God. The Bible is divinely inspired and inerrant throughout. Its assertions are factually true in all the original autographs. It is the supreme authority in everything it teaches.
2. The final guide to the interpretation of Scripture is Scripture itself.
3. The account of origins presented in Genesis is a simple but factual presentation of actual events and therefore provides a reliable framework for scientific research into the question of the origin and history of life, mankind, the earth, and the universe.
4. The various original life-forms (kinds), including mankind, were made by direct creative acts of God. The living descendants of any of the original kinds (apart from man) may represent more than one species today, reflecting the genetic potential within the original kind. Only limited biological changes (including mutational deterioration) have occurred naturally within each kind since Creation.
5. The great Flood of Genesis was an actual historic event, worldwide (global) in its extent and effect.
6. The special creation of Adam (the first man) and Eve (the first woman), and their subsequent fall into sin, is the basis for the necessity of salvation for mankind.
7. Death (both physical and spiritual) and bloodshed entered into this world subsequent to and as a direct consequence of man's sin.(C) THEOLOGY
1. The Godhead is triune: one God, three Persons--God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
2. All mankind are sinners, inherently from Adam and individually (by choice) and are therefore subject to God's wrath and condemnation.
3. Freedom from the penalty and power of sin is available to man only through the sacrificial death and shed blood of Jesus Christ, and His complete and bodily Resurrection from the dead.
4. The Holy Spirit enables the sinner to repent and believe in Jesus Christ.
5. The Holy Spirit lives and works in each believer to produce the fruits of righteousness.
6. Salvation is a gift received by faith alone in Christ alone and expressed in the individual's repentance, recognition of the death of Christ as full payment for sin, and acceptance of the risen Christ as Savior, Lord and God.
7. All things necessary for our salvation are either expressly set down in Scripture or may be deduced by good and necessary consequence from Scripture.
8. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.
9. Jesus Christ rose bodily from the dead, ascended to Heaven, and is currently seated at the right hand of God the Father, and shall return in person to this Earth as Judge of the living and the dead.
10. Satan is the personal spiritual adversary of both God and man.
11. Those who do not believe in Christ are subject to everlasting conscious punishment, but believers enjoy eternal life with God.
12. The only legitimate marriage is the joining of one man and one woman. God has commanded that no intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of marriage.(D) GENERAL
1. Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation.
2. The days in Genesis do not correspond to geologic ages, but are six [6] consecutive twenty-four [24] hour days of Creation.
3. The Noachian Flood was a significant geological event and much (but not all) fossiliferous sediment originated at that time.
4. The 'gap' theory has no basis in Scripture.
5. The view, commonly used to evade the implications or the authority of Biblical teaching, that knowledge and/or truth may be divided into 'secular' and 'religious,' is rejected.
6. No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.
Now, where is the science in that? That Statement of Belief is designed to override science, not to support it.
Interpret all you want, but don't claim to be doing science!
Yes, and there are also forces at work that want Chriatianity shunned to behind closed doors only in private, and only on Sundays.
Thankfully enough believers got sick of that also!
The world doesn’t belong specifically to science, let alone is set by the rules the “scientists” prefer.
Frankly, I think all of the various entities that define our realities should have equal time. If scientists gave up it may be more likely that they just didn’t have as good a game!
“Evolution is just the misinterpretation of the observed variation within species.”
The term ‘Evolution’ is a misunderstanding of what Darwin’s theories and experiments showed, brought about by the Scope’s Monkey Trial.
Which had about as much chance of finding the truth as the OJ Simpson Trial.
In Revelation, John described it. There was a time I believed it was a “Fable.” After researching the origins of the Bible and non Biblical writings that referenced events in the old and new testement I believed.
If you really want to challenge your beliefs find out how the Bible was gathered and translated. Truth is an amazing thing!
This question that atheists throw out all the time of “Who created the Creator and so forth” just seems silly to me. It is a child like question and I am surprised people like Hitchens throws it out. God tells us plainly. I
Am. I am the beginning and the end the alpha and the omega. Think on that for awhile and the question is silly.
Nope. Charles Dawson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_Man
Wow you gave a really stupid answer.
You must be one of those "Creationists!" /SARC
Maybe it would help to sit down with a group and discuss it much as you would a science text in a scientific classroom setting.
Couldn’t hurt!
But I WOULD suggest a group that indeed understands it not as fables, but as the Written Word of God!
It took me a long long time that there are just going to be a number of people that refuse or ‘don’t get’ God no matter how many times I bang my head against the wall!
I guess it depends on if the crack addict just got high or if he’s in wiathdrawal!
As opposed to billions and billions of years old and it’s birthday is any ole day that might be depending on he data du jour!
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