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To: metmom
It’s all the same fossil record. It’s all the same geologic record. It’s the same laws of physics.

The data is the same. It’s the interpretation of the information that’s what’s different.

You've said that repeatedly on this thread and you know its not true.

You are trying to equate religious belief with scientific investigation. They are not the same, and to claim otherwise is dishonest. They differ in nearly all respects.

Here is a good example:

ANSWERS IN GENESIS STATEMENT OF FAITH

(A) PRIORITIES

1. The scientific aspects of creation are important, but are secondary in importance to the proclamation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
2. The doctrines of Creator and Creation cannot ultimately be divorced from the gospel of Jesus Christ.

(B) BASICS

1. The 66 books of the Bible are the written Word of God. The Bible is divinely inspired and inerrant throughout. Its assertions are factually true in all the original autographs. It is the supreme authority in everything it teaches.
2. The final guide to the interpretation of Scripture is Scripture itself.
3. The account of origins presented in Genesis is a simple but factual presentation of actual events and therefore provides a reliable framework for scientific research into the question of the origin and history of life, mankind, the earth, and the universe.
4. The various original life-forms (kinds), including mankind, were made by direct creative acts of God. The living descendants of any of the original kinds (apart from man) may represent more than one species today, reflecting the genetic potential within the original kind. Only limited biological changes (including mutational deterioration) have occurred naturally within each kind since Creation.
5. The great Flood of Genesis was an actual historic event, worldwide (global) in its extent and effect.
6. The special creation of Adam (the first man) and Eve (the first woman), and their subsequent fall into sin, is the basis for the necessity of salvation for mankind.
7. Death (both physical and spiritual) and bloodshed entered into this world subsequent to and as a direct consequence of man's sin.

(C) THEOLOGY

1. The Godhead is triune: one God, three Persons--God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
2. All mankind are sinners, inherently from Adam and individually (by choice) and are therefore subject to God's wrath and condemnation.
3. Freedom from the penalty and power of sin is available to man only through the sacrificial death and shed blood of Jesus Christ, and His complete and bodily Resurrection from the dead.
4. The Holy Spirit enables the sinner to repent and believe in Jesus Christ.
5. The Holy Spirit lives and works in each believer to produce the fruits of righteousness.
6. Salvation is a gift received by faith alone in Christ alone and expressed in the individual's repentance, recognition of the death of Christ as full payment for sin, and acceptance of the risen Christ as Savior, Lord and God.
7. All things necessary for our salvation are either expressly set down in Scripture or may be deduced by good and necessary consequence from Scripture.
8. Jesus Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary.
9. Jesus Christ rose bodily from the dead, ascended to Heaven, and is currently seated at the right hand of God the Father, and shall return in person to this Earth as Judge of the living and the dead.
10. Satan is the personal spiritual adversary of both God and man.
11. Those who do not believe in Christ are subject to everlasting conscious punishment, but believers enjoy eternal life with God.
12. The only legitimate marriage is the joining of one man and one woman. God has commanded that no intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of marriage.

(D) GENERAL

1. Scripture teaches a recent origin for man and the whole creation.
2. The days in Genesis do not correspond to geologic ages, but are six [6] consecutive twenty-four [24] hour days of Creation.
3. The Noachian Flood was a significant geological event and much (but not all) fossiliferous sediment originated at that time.
4. The 'gap' theory has no basis in Scripture.
5. The view, commonly used to evade the implications or the authority of Biblical teaching, that knowledge and/or truth may be divided into 'secular' and 'religious,' is rejected.
6. No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record.


Now, where is the science in that? That Statement of Belief is designed to override science, not to support it.

Interpret all you want, but don't claim to be doing science!

149 posted on 02/24/2008 7:26:02 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman

You have a different fossil record that creationists? Different laws of physics? A different geologic history?

That’s news to me.

Funny, I thought we all lived on the same planet.


166 posted on 02/24/2008 7:50:35 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coyoteman

where is the anti-science in that Coyote? You’ve NEVER once showed how it is anti-science- everythign listed in those statements is scientifically sound. Getting a little tired of your unexplained accusations- If you haven’t the wherewithall to show that any of that is inconsistant with scientific investigations, then refrain from ignorantly posting ad nauseum.


184 posted on 02/24/2008 8:36:47 PM PST by CottShop
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To: Coyoteman

No, that’s the basis for the interpretation of the physical evidence that exists in this universe.

It’s not different data, fossil record, physical laws, forces, chemical reactions, or any other data collected about the physical creation.


187 posted on 02/24/2008 8:45:31 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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