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California exodus turns to stampede
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 20, 2008

Posted on 02/21/2008 4:07:43 AM PST by Man50D

WASHINGTON – California, which once lured Americans from near and far, is now driving out millions of the most productive residents – including high percentages of the most affluent.

"When California faced a Mount Everest-sized $14 billion deficit in 2003, one of the major causes for the red ink was the stampede of millionaire households from the state," says a report called "Rich States, Poor States" by economists Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore. "Out of the 25,000 or so seven-figure-income families, more than 5,000 left in the early 2000s, and the loss of their tax payments accounted for about half the budget hole."

And it's not just the rich leaving.

Based on data from moving companies, California had the second-highest domestic population out-flow of any state in 2005, according to the report, "despite the beautiful weather, beaches, and mountains."

The bad news for California is that it faces $14 billion deficit this year, despite boasting one of the highest tax burdens in the nation.

The report, published by the American Legislative Exchange Council shows jobs are not just leaving the country – they are moving from state to state, with the population following.

"States are in direct competition with each other for human capital and business investment. State governments that think they can attract jobs and people, and grow their economies, by taxing their citizens at a higher rate than their neighbors are sadly mistaken," said Democratic Arkansas state Sen. Steve Faris, ALEC's 2008 national chairman. "Legislators should take a close look at where their state ranks in this book and use it as a tool to help them improve."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: arthurlaffer; bluestates; calbudgetcaexodus; california; californication; democratparty; exodus; immigration; liberals; publicpolicy; stephenmoore; taxes; taxtherich
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To: Kieri; Thermalseeker
Funny that you mentioned Michigan, Here in Tennessee we have been flooded with advertisements from California and Michigan touting both states as the place to do business.

Please tell your governors it ain’t working. We read the papers here too. Ad the fact that Tennessee is full of your states refugees, all the slick advertizements in the world can't undo the horror stories we hear.

101 posted on 02/21/2008 6:53:42 AM PST by RedMonqey
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To: steadfastconservative

Some of us have our grown kids back home. Rents are as ridiculous as the real estate market was.


102 posted on 02/21/2008 6:54:55 AM PST by wizr ("Give me liberty, or give me death." - Patrick Henry)
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To: neefer
It was an effective ad. Made me wonder if we should spend our federal tax refund on a vacation to see the Reagan library.

It's worth it - you'll love the place.

103 posted on 02/21/2008 6:56:49 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: wideminded

Yep, just like “manifest destiny” had an impact on the Native Americans. Turnabout ain’t fair, but it does happen, eventually.


104 posted on 02/21/2008 6:57:54 AM PST by wizr ("Give me liberty, or give me death." - Patrick Henry)
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To: Man50D

And all the so-called conservative Republicans in California just could not get enough of Schwarzenegger. Don’t blame me, I voted for McClintock.


105 posted on 02/21/2008 6:58:02 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: RedMonqey

California State Mottos:

1960s: Peace Man.

1970s: Disco duck!

1980s: CHiPs... And chips.

1990s: “Welcome to California, now go home”

Now: “That does it, I’m leaving!”.


106 posted on 02/21/2008 6:59:35 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Draft: Condoleezza Rice for Vice President!)
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To: Man50D

All part of the big liberal plan. The illegals are survivors and will be in hog heaven as real estate comes available cheap.


107 posted on 02/21/2008 7:00:00 AM PST by jetson
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To: CORedneck
Living in Colorado, our legislature went from being conservative to being liberal.

Yes, and taxes and regulation are going up now. I could just spit. But the Republican party here is a clown show.

108 posted on 02/21/2008 7:00:06 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: rstrahan

The reasons for moving from California to rural America are obvious...as you list. The problem is that when they move to hickville, Idhao, Montana, Wyoming, they think they have some sort of responibility to enlighten everyone to the California way.

My neighbor and long-time friends sold their ranch located adjacent to my place to a Califonia jerk with a lot of $$. The first battle was range cows in his pasture...he didn’t get the rule that cows are fenced OUT...his fences are in bad shape and he apparently thinks it’s everyone elses responsibility to maintain his fences. Then the battle went to water rights...next it was property lines and fences...next it was locked gates and trying to keep the public off the public roads and trails. I suspect this is the summer I’ll have to grab him and “explain” how things in California don’t work here. I’m looking forward to it.


109 posted on 02/21/2008 7:00:18 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: gridlock
But one nice thing about people from New Jersey is that when we move to a new state, we do not feel compelled to re-create the pathologies of New Jersey everywhere we go.

LOL you must be the only ones. One of the biggest problems here is yankees moving in from places like NJ, NY, MA, etc. and then immediately pushing for higher taxes and more government intervention in everything.

110 posted on 02/21/2008 7:00:24 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Riley

I remember L.A., before the freeways.


111 posted on 02/21/2008 7:02:29 AM PST by wizr ("Give me liberty, or give me death." - Patrick Henry)
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To: Man50D
Britons Quit Country In Record Numbers
112 posted on 02/21/2008 7:04:00 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: Man50D

I’ve thought for a long time that where people choose to live and work says more about them and what they really think politically.

The trends from liberal to conservative areas, both in terms of regional, state, and local (eg, cities to suburbs) tells buckets about what people view as the superior ideology and lifestyle.

Actions speak louder than words. Goodbye California. You were once great, but grew fat and happy until your arteries clogged beyond repair.


113 posted on 02/21/2008 7:04:22 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat
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To: Man50D
Makes you wonder what COUNTRY is going to throw open their borders, and with open arms, TAKE IN AMERICA’S so called evil rich when the socialist’s come into power. How many of the rich have moved their banking off shore so that they can leave and not have their accounts attached by the Soviet American government??? Some smart small, nice country, is going to throw open the gates and say: HEY RICH AMERICANS WHO WANT FREEDOM, LOW TAXES, AND GET TO KEEP YOUR MONEY, COME ON DOWN!!!! Then, they will leave America, like those leaving Mexicaforniastan, and take that socialized medicine money with them.
114 posted on 02/21/2008 7:05:54 AM PST by RetiredArmy (It is time for Conservatives to think about forming our own party. NO MORE RINOs!!)
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To: gridlock
All I know is that whenever I tell my Texan friends that I want to move there from New Jersey, they go into this long rant about how it gets to be 140 degrees in the shade and the mosquitos are so big they carry off small children.

Missouri isn't any better. Plus we have the highest concentration of lead deposits in the world. You probably can't drive across the state line without getting lead poisoning.

115 posted on 02/21/2008 7:07:13 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: claudiustg
Funny, it’s like that in Montana, too. Plus there is terrible cold, winter 7 months out of the year and then the forest fires.

Drat! I guess I might as well just stay in New Jersey, then!

116 posted on 02/21/2008 7:12:10 AM PST by gridlock (Proud McCain Supporter since February 7, 2008.)
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To: Man50D

California needs a law that allows people to leave California but they have to leave their money. This is more evidence that taxes are going to go up for the lower income people who can’t afford to leave.


117 posted on 02/21/2008 7:12:48 AM PST by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the amoral party of what if and whine.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Lots of cold. I reckon they just wouldn't like North Dakota...

Here in Minnesota you see them during the summer. They comment on how nice it is, but they never seem to make it through the winter. It's always a new batch the next year.

118 posted on 02/21/2008 7:19:12 AM PST by toast
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To: kublia khan
Obama will win.

All taxes will be increased and Capital gains tax will be a big one going to 30 to 40% in my guesstament (because the rich need to pay their fair share). With the Capital gain tax increase the stock market will go dormant ( ie. very little trading) companies will lay off and reinvest less into then self's and just sit on the cash.

Cash is a position and business will just wait until cash is not the best position.

After all the tax increases tax revenues will drastically fall and the solution will be to raises taxes.

119 posted on 02/21/2008 7:20:04 AM PST by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE MRSA INFECTION IN THE STATE)
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To: Fishrrman
As the blue state refugees flock to the red states, we are seeing the once “solid red” states change to purple. Eventually, the purple may fade to blue.

This is interesting. There are the same number of liberals, but since they are distributed over more states, there will be more liberal states. This makes me wonder if the liberal plans to get rid of or water down the electoral college might be abandoned.

120 posted on 02/21/2008 7:20:32 AM PST by murdoog
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