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McCain? No Way!
Gun Owners of America ^ | Feb 15, 2008 | Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)

Posted on 02/17/2008 10:20:04 AM PST by calcowgirl

www.gunowners.org/op0808.htm

McCain? No Way!
by Sen. HL "Bill" Richardson (ret.)
Chairman of the Board, GOA

Americans are being told by the mainstream media that conservatives have no other choice than to back the hypocrite from Arizona. All that is required is to pretend he is "really" a conservative. "So, crawl under the big Republican tent and vote for McCain," we are told. "Besides, what other choice do you have?"

We have plenty of choices, none of which calls for casting our vote for the lesser of two presidential evils.

First, the Republican race isn't over. Huckabee is still around and as Kansas and Louisiana should point out, the Romney vote flocked to Huckabee. Not that they loved Huckabee, but that they have zero trust in the promises of McCain. Even if Huckabee loses, what makes anyone think conservatives will vote for McCain?

Don't you liberals get it? The republican conservative believes McCain would be a vindictive president. He's proven his dislike for conservatives and would gut us at every opportunity.

Why do I say that? Because of three decades of experience as a Republican California Senator and a fifty year activist in the conservative movement. I have first hand, in-their-face experience with elitist RINO's (Republican in Name Only) office holders. They are biblically ignorant, power hungry, status seeking egotists who have no difficulty aiding their liberal Democrat colleagues whenever their arms are politely twisted. The one thing they have in common with liberal Democrats is their dislike of all conservatives, especially those who are Bible-believing. McCain, as president, would stifle the voices of elected Republican leaders and try to legislate the conservative movement out of existence.

There is no reason why any conservative should be depressed, especially if they look at past history. I clearly remember the political climate in 1964. We newly-awakened conservatives had a real friend running for the Republican nomination. Barry Goldwater defeated a liberal Republican in the primaries, but in the general election, the mainstream media slaughtered him. In 1964 it was easy to do; we had no effective political action committees, no conservative organizations, few pro-life activists, little religious participation, no talk radio, a handful of articulate conservative legislators, no fax machines and zero Internet. After the 1964 November election, all looked hopeless. Not a bright star on the horizon....But!

In 1966, we conservatives elected an actor as Governor of California. I was elected to the State Senate. The thespian and I were greener than grass but we were both quick to learn. Ron Reagan became a national star, a conservative leader in the nation’s most popular state. He couldn't be ignored.

I founded Gun Owners of America and Gun Owners of California. We became the second largest pro-Second Amendment organization in America with membership in the hundreds of thousands. We concentrated our efforts on electing pro-gunners to the legislature and stopping anti-gun legislation. We grew rapidly and were quite successful. During liberal Jerry Brown's eight years as governor, not a single anti-gun bill was signed into law. The reason was simple -- although the liberal Democrats controlled both houses of the legislature, no anti-gun legislation passed from either house to find its way to the Governor’s desk.

The entire gun movement is close to accomplishing that feat on a national level. As long as the gun community hangs together, it will make little difference on gun issues who is sitting in the White House. The same could be true of other major conservative organizations as long as they stay in the fight. We are much better off than in 1964 and much better organized.

The other good news is that some of the weak-sister Republicans are leaving office -- not willing to scrap it out with the liberal Democrats. Hooray, happy to see you go! Call Gun Owners if you need a ride out of town. We have an opportunity to replace them with tough, no nonsense conservatives. Already, some very fine men are seeking these vacancies.

We at Gun Owners intend to be very engaged in Congressional and US Senate races.

I personally will not cast a vote for the presidency -- that is, if McCain is the Republican nominee. Under no circumstances will I vote for either of the Democrats. This will be the first time in fifty years that I have made this choice. I hope it will be the last.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: anyonebutmccain; banglist; cino; demagogue; elections; goa; gunvote; hlrichardson; manchuriancandidate; mccain; mccainunfit; mcfraud; mctraitor; nowaymccain; quaaludeicrous; rino; rinomccain
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To: tarheelswamprat

his name is listed and do you understand what the Council on Foreign Relations is?


601 posted on 02/18/2008 9:15:21 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: 3AngelaD

What I “want” is to not have a known Constitutional violator in the Big House...as giving him my vote is in violation of the oath I took just as much as John McCain stomping on the First Amendment is a violation of HIS oath.

Nothing more.

....and because Bush signed that travesty into law, he lost my vote the last time around.

Really, it’s a moot point concerning “my vote” anyway......’cause John McCain will NEVER win Massachusetts.


602 posted on 02/18/2008 9:16:48 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: Man50D

The socialists seem to have convinced you. The truth is there are numerous differences between Hillary and McCain.


603 posted on 02/18/2008 9:17:21 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: tarheelswamprat

CFR members include/included;
Dick Cheney

John Kerry

Bill Clinton

Al Gore

Ronald Reagan

George H. W. Bush

Gerald Ford

Richard Nixon

John, David and Nelson Rockefeller

Condolezza Rice

Paul Wolfowit

Alan Greenspan

Colin Powell

Henry Kissinger

Angelina Jolie (Yes, the actress has a five year term membership as an ambassador)

google it...the point is McCain’s name being used as a member of the CFR inferring something evil or conspiratorial in nature is not a fair comment. Many good people are members.


604 posted on 02/18/2008 9:30:21 AM PST by katiedidit1
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To: Arizona Carolyn
McCain isn't FOR America either.

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605 posted on 02/18/2008 10:15:42 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye
Way to go, Tiger!!! Woo Hoo!!! LOL:)

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606 posted on 02/18/2008 10:21:08 AM PST by La Enchiladita
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To: katiedidit1; tarheelswamprat
"Ronald Reagan was never a CFR member."

his name is listed and do you understand what the Council on Foreign Relations is?

His name is listed where? Link?

607 posted on 02/18/2008 10:27:25 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: katiedidit1
The socialists seem to have convinced you.

You obviously can't grasp the very simple concept Socialism exists in the GOP. Voting the party line only furthers the Socialist cause.

The truth is there are numerous differences between Hillary and McCain.

I can see by the list you presented in post #603.
608 posted on 02/18/2008 10:29:33 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: PhilDragoo

Good one Phil! Great comment!


609 posted on 02/18/2008 10:30:16 AM PST by Brandie (Just a Dittohead that loves America. God bless our Troops! Vote No More Rino's!)
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To: La Enchiladita
Now that's scary. I live in Estes Park, home to the Stanley Hotel. I'm going to have nightmares now that Johnny will come jumping out of the shadows with an axe now!!! ;^)
610 posted on 02/18/2008 11:22:38 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: calcowgirl; katiedidit1
"Ronald Reagan was never a CFR member."

his name is listed and do you understand what the Council on Foreign Relations is?

His name is listed where? Link?

katie, this is a misconception which pops-up from time to time in internet discussion boards, and has even been investigated and dissected many times here on Free Republic. You may have indeed found a website that "lists" Reagan as a member, but, for whatever reason, they are simply in error.

The truth is that Ronald Reagan is the only US President of the latter half of the Twentieth Century who was not a member of the CFR. As I stated previously, it was for that very reason that he was so bitterly opposed by the oligarchical Establishment of which the CFR is but one manifestation.

To answer your question, I know very well, and I'm certain calcowgirl does too, what the CFR is. My reason for responding to you is that I do not wish for Reagan to be erroneously tainted by a mistaken association with them.

Reagan was their enemy, and he was an historical anomaly who came along at a providential time in our nation's history and severely disrupted their agenda and timetables. He was only one man, however, and could not turn back the tide completely or permanently by himself. He could only show the way, and it was up to those of us who followed after him to stay the course and finish the work.

We failed, and thus we face the dire situation confronting us today. They could not defeat and destroy Reagan directly, but they have cleverly and successfully spent the twenty years since he left the scene "re-educating" a lazy and complacent American populace and deconstructing and disassembling what he built.

611 posted on 02/18/2008 11:24:04 AM PST by tarheelswamprat
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To: calcowgirl

I’m impressed by the fact that dead people can be members of CFR. That makes it a lot like the Democrat Party doesn’t it? lol


612 posted on 02/18/2008 11:24:47 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: katiedidit1
So the disgraced Paul Wolfowitz - who showed contempt for our military, the birdbrain Jolie, and a dead former president are members.
613 posted on 02/18/2008 11:30:53 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Huck
No. You'll swallow Barack Hussein Obama instead.

Sorry, but I'm not campaigning for Obama nor am I drinking from the GOP dispenser.

McCain is simply a poor excuse for a candidate, especially for the GOP.

There are still better choices out there.

614 posted on 02/18/2008 11:36:43 AM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican. McCain is the Conservatives true litmus test)
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To: Dante3

It’s not clear now what Ronald Reagan’s membership status is now. There is evidence up-thread that he was not a member...during his life. But there is still some uncertainty about whether he joined post-mortem. Is Oliver Stone a member? He may be able to clear this up with a movie.


615 posted on 02/18/2008 11:41:16 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye

LOL


616 posted on 02/18/2008 11:42:42 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Dante3

Word in the ether is that JFK resigned his membership about fifteen years ago.


617 posted on 02/18/2008 11:45:02 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: All
***CFR memberships now available***

I'm all dressed up with nowhere to go
Walkin' with a dead man over my shoulder

Waiting for an invitation to arrive
Goin' to a party where no one's still alive

CHORUS

I was struck by lighting
Walkin' down the street
I was hit by something last night in my sleep
It's a dead man's party
Who could ask for more
Everybody's comin', leave your body at the door
Leave your body and soul at the door . . .
(Don't run away it's only me)

All dressed up with nowhere to go
Walkin' with a dead man
Waitin' for an invitation to arrive
With a dead man . . . Dead Man . . .

Got my best suit and my tie
Shiny silver dollar on either eye
I hear the chauffeur comin' to the door
Says there's room for maybe just one more . . .

CHORUS

Don't run away it's only me
Don't be afraid of what you can't see
Don't run away it's only me . . .


618 posted on 02/18/2008 11:56:59 AM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: TigersEye; Dante3; tarheelswamprat

By all reputable accounts I’ve ever seen (and I have looked), Ronald Reagan was never a CFR member (although he did tick off many of his supporters by appointing many CFR members to his cabinet).

Unfortunately, it appears Ron Paul supporters sent out emails pointing out how many of the current Presidential candidates are CFR members—and they listed Ronald Reagan among a handful of folks. So, the disinformation campaign continues.


619 posted on 02/18/2008 12:29:51 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: TigersEye
If I gambled I would have bet the house against such situation coming about. Good thing I don’t. Buy ammo, guns, generators, freeze dried food.... you know the list. Aiyeeeeeeeeee!

I've been doing that for quite a while now. I've got all of those items and then some. ;o) I do need to stock up on more ammo though. IMO, we're going to need all of the items on your list. It's getting too crazy in America thanks to our treasonous politicians.

620 posted on 02/18/2008 12:34:33 PM PST by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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