Posted on 02/17/2008 6:35:11 AM PST by listenhillary
'I don't hate Muslims. I hate Islam,' says Holland's rising political star Geert Wilders, the popular MP whose film on Islam has fuelled the debate on race in Holland, wants an end to mosque building and Muslim immigration.
TV addict with bleached hair who adores Maggie Thatcher and prefers kebabs to hamburgers, Geert Wilders has got nothing against Muslims. He just hates Islam. Or so he says. 'Islam is not a religion, it's an ideology,' says Wilders, a lanky Roman Catholic right-winger, 'the ideology of a retarded culture.'
The Dutch politician, who sees himself as heir to a recent string of assassinated or hounded mavericks who have turned Holland upside down, has been doing a crash course in Koranic study. Likening the Islamic sacred text to Hitler's Mein Kampf, he wants the 'fascist Koran' outlawed in Holland, the constitution rewritten to make that possible, all immigration from Muslim countries halted, Muslim immigrants paid to leave and all Muslim 'criminals' stripped of Dutch citizenship and deported 'back where they came from'. But he has nothing against Muslims. 'I have a problem with Islamic tradition, culture, ideology. Not with Muslim people.'
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I agree with him- but- isn’t that the easy way out?
Would anyone-in WW2- have said they hated Nazism but not Nazis? Of course not! We wouldn’t have imagined separating the believers from their ideaolgy; after all they were the TOOLS of that dangerous ideaology. The carriers of the evil. To destroy what Nazism was doing to the world we had to destroy Nazi’s themselves. Trying to talk them out of being Nazis wasn’t going to do it.
So how can Muslim people-holding the evil that is Islam holy- be considered separate from that which they promote?
The ideaology that is Islam IS the core of the danger, no question. The Koran orders all the evil that Islam is doing to the world . It is the high command, but the soldiers that follow it are the enemy too.
I don’t hate Hillary and Obama I just hate liberals?????????
btt
Something along those lines.
That is a target-rich environment right there.
Gosh, I love this guy!
note that the guardian seems to have an issue with the man.
He is Dutch !
Still I like the idea.
McCain / Wilders in 2008
He may yet reverse the jihad tide in Holland and Europe. He needs to be heard here in the US!
http://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/preserveident.htm
Preserving The Islamic Identity in The West Threats & Solutions
By Br. Amir Abdullah
It is therefore unavoidable that as long as we live here we will, through a process of cultural osmosis, take on some of the characteristics of the Kuffar. The likeness of Islam and Kuffar is like that of fresh clear spring water and water brought up from the bottom of a suburban sewer. If even a drop of the filthy water enters the clear water, the clarity diminishes. Likewise it only takes a drop of the filth of disbelief to contaminate Islam in the West. If we have it within our means we should therefore consider moving to a Muslim land whereby we can at least live amongst our brethren and within an Islamic society free from the contamination of the disbelievers.
It is much better to say what one loves instead of what one hates.
The idea that all ideas are of equal value has got to be cast down as the laughable falsehood it is. Americans are so blinded by their worship of the pagan goddess of Individual Liberty that they can no longer conceive of a society in which Good is acceptable and Evil is not. (Who gets to define Good and Evil? God does, and He has left us the Natural Law to show us which is which.) We fool ourselves into thinking we are free, yet at any moment there are persons among us who are actively plotting to kill as many of us as possible and enslave the survivors. We live at their sufferance. Today or tomorrow some jihadi may choose to wipe us, or children, or our loved ones from existence in the name of the Koran. How are we then free?
We aren’t — and no one on this Earth will ever be free so long as the Islamic faith exists.
Please note that I am talking about the destruction of Islam, not of Muslims. Islam is not a religion; it is a criminal conspiracy to overthrow legitimate government around the world, and should be treated as such. Some of its followers are active conspirators; these evil Muslims believe in the aim of the conspiracy, follow the Koran to the letter and are willing to kill anyone who stands in their way. Others — the Good Muslims — are victims of their upbringing, and are merely dupes of the conspiracy. The Good Muslims, while unwilling to go the whole hog (so to speak) and leave Islam, do disdain the clear instructions of their Prophet to kill and enslave the kuffr, and are thus are heretics against their own faith. Unfortunately, since it is impossible to determine which Muslims are Good and which are evil, we are forced by Islam itself to treat all Muslims as guilty until proven innocent.
We do not dare be squeamish about this. We must cast off the robe of the nonviolent Pilgrim, and assume the armor and mantle of the Crusader, if we are to survive. Islam offers us no other choice. The only way we will ever be free to live and pursue our own happiness is if we reduce Islam to a sad footnote in the encyclopedia of tyranny. As a civilization we must decide that Islam is no more tolerable to a free people than is child pornography. We must outlaw it, round up and sort the Good Muslims from the Evil faithful followers (the Evil Muslims), and prohibit its public expression. We must wage aggressive, insidious, and relentless information warfare, making every effort to separate Muslims from their faith. We must though propaganda denounce and ridicule the soi-disant prophet Mohammed, and reveal him as the heretic, warlord, and pedophile he certainly was. And we must do so without guilt, without hesitation, and without ceasing, because if we do not they will kill us and enslave our survivors.
Do we have the guts to win this war? Based upon what I have seen since 911, I doubt it. It may take many attacks the size of 911 or worse to reveal the remnant among the West who are morally and psychologically capable of fighting in defense of their civilization. By then, it may be too late to fight.
It’s sad that those points have to be stated, and are not just understood.
Good point. I've considered myself an advocate of aim and discrimination, but if there is no possibility of peaceful coexistance, then all bets are off. We do whatever it takes to destroy the enemy. We dictate terms of their surrender.
If person “A” publishes a pamphlet promising anyone who reads it a sexual orgy if they will just kill you for them, is that a thought or an action? The law says its an action.
Are you saying that its wrong to remove the pamphlets from where they’re posted and destroy them, because people have a right to read them and decide for themselves whether to kill you or not?
The Koran constitutes a murder and sedition contract. That’s an action, and an illegal one at that.
Go Geert!!
Throw the author in prison. It is the writing, and therefore the advocacy, that is criminal. Is it a crime to read a book that advocates criminal action? I don’t think so.
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