I agree. Why don’t we go back to your own comments, shall we?
OK. Let’s go with a standard you have set. Here’s what you said in post #283: And I recognize His followers by their actions and their words, no matter what they call themseleves and others. And I recognize those who USE His name for their own agenda, hiding behind His robes to spew their bile and bigotry for self-gain. And I've learned first hand from FR that Christian does NOT equate to Christlike.
It sounds like what you’ve said is (and I’m here to also learn from my fellow FReepers)…
(1) …that we recognize Christ’s followers by their actions and their words (certainly lots of us recognize Christ’s words that we’ll know them by their fruits…so what you speak here is quite Biblical)
(2) …that you can recognize those who…spew their bile
(3) …”Christian” doesn’t = “Christlike” (certainly you won’t get folks who disagree with this generic statement—more just who might be the target of it)
I’d like to ask you honestly, EverOnward, how you’re doin’ not on my standard or anybody else’s, just on your standards mentioned above here?
How are you doing lately on #2—recognizing those who…spew their bile
On Feb. 11, 2008 you responded to a poster who said: Heard the whole interview. My personal favorite was Huck maintaining that neither he nor McCain ever atacked another candidate. The sad thing is he actually believes it.." by adding: Signs of a psychopath: "The most prominent symptoms of a Psychopath is ... having no conscience, being highly manipulative, being a fluent and convincing liar and being superficially charming. Psychopath's are thrill seekers who view others as fodder for exploitation. Among the first signs that someone is a Psychopath is cruelty to animals in childhood...." (Post #33, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1968402/posts )
(So the actions of a child are the fault of the parent—a presidential candidate you say has significant evidence of being a “psychopath?”)
On Feb. 7, 2008 you called VP Cheney “arrogant and delusional.” (post #59, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966687/posts)
So, Huckabee’s a “psychopath” and Cheney’s “delusional?” Anybody else “delusional?”
The Mitt bashers will never be convinced that Romney is anything other than the devil; however, they mistakenly believe if they keep posting their contemptuous, delusional illogic… (Feb. 6, 2008 Post #128 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966101/posts )
Does the “bile” stop there? (Nope) According to you, Huckabee in an “intellectually inferior…commie…[who is] a master of deceit”:
I find Huckabee to be dishonest, crude and intellectually inferior. (Jan. 17, 2008, post #61 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955486/posts )
And, in reference to Huckabee: And conservative to me is a lot more than just one issue. Prolife commies/socialists are NOT conservatives in my book. (Feb. 3, 2008, Post #29, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1964398/posts )
I’d like to know what “inside” info you have on Huckabee that makes him a “master of deceit?“ [Jan. 13, 2008, post #20 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1953116/posts )
And you do think every single Huckabee voter out there would “fully appreciate” your following “descriptions” of them?
Huckabee supporters are supposed “disciples of deceit” (Jan. 13, 2008, post #150 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952850/posts )
I’m beginning to believe Huckabee appeals only to low class, white trash, hicks… (Jan. 20, 2008, post #43 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1956433/posts )
(Boy, that one was sure “enlightening”)
One would think from the news and from FR posters that evangelicals are nonthinking robots that will vote for anyone who claims to be “one of them.” (Jan. 9, 2008, post #55 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1951093/posts )
Wow, incredible flattery, there. Can’t decide if “nonthinking robots” was more or less edifying than your “borderline criminal” reference to Evangelicals to someone accusing Evangelicals of “destroying the conservative coalition”:
Not only irrelevant, but also borderline criminal. Are a large percentage of evangelicals socialists or sheep obeying a socialist clergy? (Feb. 5, 2008, post #511, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965450/posts)
EO, you seemed to do pretty good a few months back in holding in such “bile” even when you said you had similar thoughts as others in calling some of us “Nazis”:
ANOTHER POSTER HAD SAID: "Thank you for your post #50. This thread was starting to scare the bejeebers out of me. It’s like FreeRepublic has been taken over by Nazi’s or something. Thank God for some common sense and decency."
Your response: I've had your thoughts, but come to the conclusion that it's best to allow people to express their views whether hateful, bigoted or not. Otherwise, we are left ignorant. (Jan. 12, 2008, post #85, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1952695/posts
Even as of early this month, you seemed to recognize some boundaries of decency when you told somebody: It's so nice to know you have no tolerance for personal attacks.... Namecalling always illuminates the discussion, don't you think? (Feb. 2, 2008, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963733/posts )
It seems like you were being properly sarcastic here (trying to elevate the discussion). So I need to ask you: How is it that somebody else is failing to illuminate the discussion via namecalling, but this same standard evidenced by the above comments has been of late escaping you? (Again, I’m not coming from my standard or anybody else’s standard—Just your own) Since you seem to hold a high value to a tolerance for…attacks why have you been going on the offense so much?
You didn’t like various candidate’s “attitudes” and felt free to comment on their attitudes…so does that mean that somebody holding up a mirror to your own attitudes is OK?
You said:
Saw Thompson on TV last night. He looked and acted plain nasty. (Jan. 16, 2008, post #54 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954763/posts )
McCain is a Clinton/Kerry liberal with a nasty attitude and contempt for conservative values. (Feb. 2, 2008, post #194, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963762/posts )
All coming from someone who says: I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative (Feb. 7, 2008, post #317 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966556/posts )
I’ll be voting for Obama (Feb. 8, 2008, post #216 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967002/posts )
So, since you say that Christlike behavior is often missing from these threads, and that: we recognize Christ’s followers by their actions and their words, what are we to make then of your recent constant descriptions of “Mormonphobes” and “the gullible bible thumping crowd” and “jackles?”
McCain, like the organ grinder, used his favorite little pet monkey, the Huckabee Mormonphobe to sway the gullible bible thumping crowd right where he wanted them. (Feb. 9, 2008, post #607 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966526/posts )
Where did the jackals go? I haven’t seen their frothing at the mouth rants lately. Guess they got what they wanted so they slithered back to their holes. I learned a lot from these supporters of Huckabee and McCain: how hate twists logic. (Feb. 6, 208, post #86, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966149/posts )
Maybe we can get the old “civil” you back. (That’d be nice). Because the above doesn’t compare well to the standards you mentioned to AmericaUnited and Ghost of Nixon back on Jan. 8, 2008:
To AmericaUnited: So, your religion teaches you to disrespect people who don't believe exactly like you or you decided that on your own? And how far does your disrespect go. Would you hold the door open only for someone you "respected." If you are a teacher, does that mean you treat your Mormon students with disrespect? If you are a doctor, does that mean you treat your patients with disrespect? If you are an employer, does that mean you'd refuse to hire a Mormon? How far does your disrespect go? (Jan. 8, 2008, post #98, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950410/posts)
Do you think any of the above targets of yours as highlighted here feel “respected?” Does this own question you asked apply to yourself, or only others?
Do you have a problem with everyone who doesn't beileve the way you do? (Jan. 8, 2008 post #93, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1950410/posts )
You seem to have a deep-rooted anti-Arkansas spirit, including as many anti-Huckabee comments as other posters have done so re: Romney. So how is it that these folks can’t be anti-Romney but you can call Huck all kinds of ad-hominen names not even mentioned here. Is that what you would call “Christlike” behavior? (Again, your standards; not mine) . You said:
Had an aunt (one of the sweetest nonjudgmental people I've known) that went to Arkansas to live for a "little" while. She couldn't wait to leave and called it a third world country. She was shocked at the prevailing mentality. (Nov. 20, 2007, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1928529/posts ).
Wow, that is some nasty stuff.
You’re preaching to the hand. I don’t have to prove anything to you whoever you are, whatever you are. I voted for Obama with great pleasure. Hopefully, Hillary will be knocked out of the race. Then comes the general elections — we’ll see then who I’ll vote for. It won’t be for anyone who has enjoyed animal torture, you can be sure and I’m not referring to McCain. If the Republican Party wishes to be the party of Huckabee bigots and McCain liberals, it will continue to lose election after election. Bye, bye.
For the record: My answer was "NO, I don't respect all/any religions. As far as Mormonism goes, it is so blatantly obvious to any thinking, discerning person that it's roots are blatantly fraudulent (i.e. Joeseph Smith as prophet, golden glasses, plagarism of the KJ Bible for the book of Mormon, etc.), that NO, I can't respect anyone who is an adult, with a sound mind, who has dedicated themselves to a fraud, such as Romney. I've known many Mormons and they are generally wonderful, decent people. Some don't bother to really dig into the foundation/founding of their sect. Shame on them. If it's important, you had better do your own homework.
Thanks for your post, Colofornian. We see so often, certain apologists who seem to believe that their own vitriol disappears into thin air after they post it so that they can claim in “wide-eyed innocence” to be the voice of reason and tolerance. It’s enlightening to see it brought to light. Unfortunately, there are some FReepers who buy their lies.