Posted on 02/14/2008 4:44:19 AM PST by SLB
John 15:18-25 Wednesday, February 13th, in the year of our Lord 2008 First let me say that I am not happy that I have been put in a position where I have to interrupt the series on the Gospel of John. But, what Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and other talking head pundits have done this year is not only beneath contempt and disgust but requires a Scriptural response as well. They have, in my humble opinion, proven who it is that they serve, and it is not the God of truth, but the father of all liars.
There was a time when one could turn the dial to Rush Limbaugh and/or Sean Hannity and expect to hear the truth. There was a time when listening to either got you an honest evaluation of individuals and especially candidates. That has changed, as both have proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that they can and will lie to prevent a true servant of Christ from occupying the oval office.
While I am disappointed in both of these legends in their own minds, I am especially upset at and disappointed in Rush Limbaugh. I would not have believed that he would sink to the level of vicious lies coming out of his mouth, making Romney (one of the most liberal governors in the history of the most liberal state of Massachusetts) a conservative, while at the same time doing everything in his power to paint Conservative Christian Pastor Mike Huckabee as a liberal. From Sean Hannity and others, I am disappointed, but not all that surprised. But in Rush, it goes past just disappointment. It goes to having to re-evaluate my thinking about his honesty over the years. With Rush it is more than simple disappointment, it borders on disgust. I always expected more of him, and I have been proven, by him, to be wrong in my high estimation of him and his honesty.
If I were talking to Pastor Mike Huckabee this morning, I would remind him of what Jesus warned us about in John 15:
If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. Remember the word that I said unto you, ‘The servant is not greater than his Lord.’ Since they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they had kept My saying, they would keep yours also.
But all these things will they do unto you for My name's sake, because they know not Him that sent Me. If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no covering for their sin. He that hates Me hates My Father also.
If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My Father. But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, THEY HATED ME WITHOUT A CAUSE. (John 15:18-25 ACP/KJV)
Those who serve satan hate Pastor Huckabee because they hate Christ. Had they never read or even claimed to read the word of God, they would be blameless, but since they claim to be pro-life Christian conservatives who have read the word of God, their sin lies at their door and within their hearts.
But, I would continue and remind Pastor Huckabee of this passage as well:
And He (God) said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.
And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him. Now Abraham (age 99) and Sarah (age 89) were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women. Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, “After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?”
And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, ‘Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?’
Is any thing too hard for the LORD?
At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son! (Genesis 18:10-14 ACP/KJV)
Then I would ask Pastor Mike; “Reverend Mike, which do you think it would be harder for God to do, make you President or cause an 89 year old woman to not only give birth to a perfectly happy, healthy baby boy, but breast feed him and cause her to live till he was 37 years old?”
To all of you who are getting a bit disappointed and down at the mouth, let me remind you of how God likes to fight political wars.
Then Jerubbaal, who is Gideon, and all the people that were with him, rose up early, and pitched beside the well of Harod: so that the host of the Midianites were on the north side of them, by the hill of Moreh, in the valley. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people that are with thee are too many for Me to give the Midianites into their hands, lest Israel vaunt themselves against Me, saying, “Mine own hand hath saved me.” Now therefore go to, proclaim in the ears of the people, saying, “Whosoever is fearful and afraid, let him return and depart early from mount Gilead.”
And there returned of the people twenty and two thousand; and there remained ten thousand. And the LORD said unto Gideon, The people are yet too many; bring them down unto the water, and I will try them for thee there: and it shall be, that of whom I say unto thee, This shall go with thee, the same shall go with thee; and of whomsoever I say unto thee, This shall not go with thee, the same shall not go.
So he(Gideon) brought down the people unto the water: and the LORD said unto Gideon, Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink. And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men: but all the rest of the people bowed down upon their knees to drink water. And the LORD said unto Gideon, By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other people go every man unto his place.
And he(Gideon) divided the three hundred men into three companies, and he put a trumpet in every man's hand, with pitchers, and lamps within the pitchers. And he said unto them, “Look on me, and do likewise: and, behold, when I come to the outside of the camp, it shall be that, as I do, so shall ye do. When I blow with a trumpet, I and all that are with me, then blow ye the trumpets also on every side of all the camp, and say, The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”
So Gideon, and the hundred men that were with him, came unto the outside of the camp in the beginning of the middle watch; and they had but newly set the watch: and they blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers that were in their hands. And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, “The sword of the LORD, and of Gideon.”
And they stood every man in his place round about the camp: and all the host ran, and cried, and fled. And the three hundred blew the trumpets, and the LORD set every man's sword against his fellow, even throughout all the host: and the host fled to Bethshittah in Zererath, and to the border of Abelmeholah, unto Tabbath. (Judges 7:1-7 and 16-22 ACP/KJV)
Mike, If I’m right, you still have too many working for you and not enough against you for God to deliver the presidency into your hands. You still have to many Bob Celestes and not enough Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys. For I do still believe that God is going to cause this election in November to be between you, a servant of the most High God and whichever of the two servants of satan that the democrats choose to run against you. I believe that this fight between you and McCain is nothing more than a warm up for the big fight of good against pure evil in November.
The Lord be with you my brother and may He give courage and strength to the men around you, let they, you, and I obey the command of the Lord in Job 40:7a. “Gird up thy loins now like a man”
And now, God willing I can get back to the Gospel of John.
And Lord, please let it be with those who attack our brother Mike as they try to make it be to our brother Mike. In the name of the Lord Christ Jesus I pray. Amen.
The sad thing is that Huckleberry Hound doesn’t have Burt Lancaster’s charisma or talent.
No one’s attacking the Bible.
We just don’t want it to supplant an equally Divinely-inspired document...the Constitution of the United States of America.
BTW, I’m quite conservative Catholic...Opus Dei, Legion of Mary and all that. So don’t you dare come back at me with “you’re a liberal” crap.
I just want religion kept away from the corrupting influence of politics, that’s all. “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s.”
Thanks. That brought back a lot of memories, hehe.
Do you have the lyrics for “Plastic Jesus”?
Take your meds, please. Its people like you that will be the death of the Republic with your insane theocracy.
You can put down YOUR bong, too.
Geez o pete we have reached a new low on FR. When did FR become the evangelical Christian Bible quoting network. Give it a rest already. I know this may come as a surprise to some of you, but not every aspect of life requires a Bible quote to explain it. The real importance of the teachings of the Bible in our lives is getting more diluted every day by it injection into everything.
“Hyperbole like this makes evangelicals look like a bunch of nutjobs in a lot of people’s eyes.”
Having read some of the post from members of this site over the last few month, Pastor Bob seems mild by comparison. I thought I had mistakenly stumbled onto a Bible study site, a religiously bigoted Bible study site at that.
Side bar: My wife works with a trainer for some health reasons. The woman is a very nice women and a member of one the mega evangelical churches here locally. She refused to teach her the yoga her doctor recommended because it was too new agey and not Christian. ‘Nuff’ said.
like many FR’s who will go unnamed.
I am not sure what a Bible Thumper is, but I do know how and why it is often used.
The mistake you make is that many who you would label as Bible thumpers do not agree with this guy any more than you probably do and may even think he is a knucklehead. Some people who quote the Bible are misguided, the same goes for those who don't.
I do disagree with your comparison of the Bible and the Constitution. While I uphold our Constitution and do not like to see it ignored and diminished, I do not think the Constitution is an equally Divinely-inspired document when comparing it to the Bible. The Constitution was created with a few flaws and this is why we have the amendment process.
One other thing, 'most people' can be wrong. When the child molestation and other crimes by certain Catholic priests became known and was mocked by the pop culture, 'most people' began to paint with a broad brush and the words 'Catholic priest' is being used by some as a pejorative due to the failings of a few.
Don't paint with a broad and general brush and then expect replies to immediately consider unknown specificity concerning you personally.
Hey Rev, you forgot one minor detail. Hackabee has a record. It’s not conservative. The ability to quote scripture does not erase that.
I wasn’t equating either document. I was stating that the Constitution is also a God-inspired writing, flaws and all.
Why do I say that? Think about the times and the men involved. The fact that all these brilliant men who we know as our Founding Fathers were all placed together in the same place and point in time is proof positive of the handiwork of Divine Providence.
There can be no other explanation. Random chance doesn’t quite cut it.
To wideawake: you say “I am an consv., evangelical, bible believing, Jesus loving Pastor (32 years now!!!)” and you talk like that?
You may be wideawake, but I think the coffee must be wearing off.
Why don’t you visit www.explorehuckabee.com and actually read his positions instead of slandering the man.
I think you mixed me up with post #18.
Kindly recall that when Rush had his TV show, it was offered by that icon of conservative philosophia Phil Donahue. And as for Sean Hannity, you need only observe his Fox News dance partner every evening to see the rot firsthand; one is a Bolshevik, the other an incrementalist.
As *dishwater conservatives* they exist and have been given their voice in the public forum only to serve as a safety valve and prevent any real buildup of pressure for a groundswell of real American Conservatism.
True enough. Maybe you'll find this one more to your liking:
The people who cast the votes do not decide an election, the people who count the votes do.
-- Joseph Stalin (1879 - 1953)
Well said. It amazes me the number of "conservatives" who think the drivel coming from these two and others are what being a conservative is all about.
Actually it doesn’t amaze me as the majority of those registered to vote (legally) in the US have no idea what a real conservative looks like.
When any one starts quoting the Bible, I consider them to be power mongers. I distrust most of the tv/radio preachers - they want money.
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