Posted on 02/11/2008 3:45:40 PM PST by Flavius
Edited on 02/11/2008 4:36:47 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Our B-52s are still in service as well and serve a useful purpose as well, most being converted to a cruise missle carrying role (albeit a whole lot more than the TU-95 can carry, but also of a different variety).
The newer TU-95s and the upgrades now can carry some pretty wicked anti-shipping cruise missiles, giving them a much better strike capability and increasing their danger IMHO if they are allowed to get close enough.
Clearly, there are those on this thread who disagree with that and I respect their positon, while personally disagreeing with it.
History tells them ass~whuppin’s come from the West...
They do get through them but always at an awful cost...
IMHO : One of the worst mistakes of WWII was helping Russia.
Since we aren't planning to attack Mexico City or more properly points south of their, with ballistic missiles, I wouldn't be too worried. The Russians are "worried" or at least upset about our putting DEFENSIVE (antimissile) missiles close to their territory. What does that tell you? In fact they are probably too close to Mother Russia to be used again Russian IRBMs. They are however in just the right place to defend against Iranian or Pakistani missiles aimed at say London, or New York.
As I understand it, any aircraft carrier operating in international waters owns airspace out to five kilometers from the ship during flight operations.
I remember Connie was buzzed by a May ASW bird during the late 1970s, but they were careful not to fly directly over the flight deck. That’s definitely a finger in the eye move.
Allowing them to fly right over the carrier at 600m in the middle of the Pacific is horrible.
Test? You betcha. Just a thought, but didn’t Gordon Brown get tested soon after he took office; Olmert was tested last year also after taking office.
I really tend to think that Al Qaeda will test the new President within the first year after that person takes office. It’s their pattern. They tested Clinton with the WTC in 1993 - and he did nothing. They don’t dare mess now with Bush - first: they know he’ll respond, and second: they also know he has nothing to lose now with only 11 months left in office.
“... surveillance equipment just waiting for us to paint them with our newest radar system.”
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I agree.
They need to have an accident with a good sized drone next time.
Followed by a very nice hallmark card to Pukin.
I do! I used to bid those projects. On a small production run of just a few items, by the time you met every specification the cost would be astronomical. Some projects cost many tens of thousands of dollars just to get a decent proposal submitted to be considered.
By the way as I recall the hammer was a special non-sparking alloy of exotic metal, and the toilet seat was heated and thermostatically controlled so that at -65 degrees your A$$ wouldn't freeze to it and at 120 degrees it wouldn't fry your butt.
That seems to be Putin’s line of thought. Also, he seems to think of Eastern Europe as Russian property.
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The Comm~Block is gone>.< ,,,
That was their “buffer-zone” between Russia and the West,,,
Sooooo,,,;0)
mid 70s and then reserve and guard and reserve again in the 80s. Got too fat. (My full name is El Gato Gordo. :)
I didn't have an MOS, us wing wipers don't, but my first AFSC was 2825 (2821 for the first 2 years) , then 30XX in the Guard and back to 2825, with a technical intelligence slot, as a reserve IMA . Right after I got off active duty, and was in grad school, I was attached to SAC missile facilities engineering at SAC HQ near Omaha, and spent 1/2 of my two week tour at Vandenberg crawling around LCF and LFs. And getting kicked out of a Titan=II site that had a live, that is fueled, bird ready for launch
But the AF has changed all the numbers around and today I guess I'd be a 62E3E. That last technical intell position was the most interesting, to say the least.
I was told where they *really* keep the crew of the Roswell craft, and the wreckage. I'd tell y'all ... but then I'd .. well you know) :)
And it's still scary as hell whether it's old hat or not. It only takes ONE of those flyovers to be something more than "playing" and we could lose thousands of men who should be in some of the most well protected space on the planet.
MM (in TX)
My high school calc teacher was a missileman and he told us about an incident where, during a dreary rotation down below, the started receiving a message that began “Flash Traffic”...
Also standard cold war operating procedure: Any Bear does that, gets splashed a couple of miles from the carrier.
Career-limiting move, overflying a CVA at low altitude.
The Egyptians lost a few Badgers that way, too, in the 70's in the eastern Med.
That B-1 drop broke the will of AQ in Iraq a couple weeks ago.
I do not buy this. If we are so scared of Iran then invite the Russians as well.
We did. They gave us the brush. They wanted the beef more than the security. They have other agenda, and are using the complaint to prick up their defense and political elites and give cover to their rearmament and politico-military recrudescence. I sense some adventures in the offing. Like knocking over Belarus and the Baltics.
The system you're talking about is the Close In Weapons System or for short CIWS.
Oh what the heck, they've been moved since the 80s anyway.
The location can be seen on this pdf map. They, well the crew anyway, are or were in the basement of building 856 at Wright Patterson, AFB, Dayton Ohio.
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Which is built on a slab. :)
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