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Russian bombers intercepted near US Navy vessel (Tupolev 95 flew 2000ft directly over USS Nimitz)
ynet ^ | 02.12.08 | ynet

Posted on 02/11/2008 3:45:40 PM PST by Flavius

Edited on 02/11/2008 4:36:47 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Russian bomber aircraft approached a US Aircraft carrier in the Pacific on Saturday and were intercepted by American fighter jets, a US Defense official said on Monday...

Excerpt. Story continues: YNetNews



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Navy Intercepts Russian Bombers

By LOLITA C. BALDOR – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. fighter planes intercepted two Russian bombers, including one that buzzed an American aircraft carrier in the western Pacific during the weekend, The Associated Press has learned.

A U.S. military official says that one Russian Tupolev 95 flew directly over the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz twice, at a low altitude of about 2,000 feet, while another bomber circled about 58 miles out. The official was speaking on condition of anonymity because the reports on the flights were classified as secret.

The Saturday incident, which never escalated beyond the flyover, comes amid heightened tensions between the United States and Russia over U.S. plans for a missile defense system based in Poland and the Czech Republic.

Such Russian bomber flights were common during the Cold War, but have been rare since.

The bombers were among four Russian Tupolev 95s launched from Ukrainka in the middle of the night, including one that Japanese officials say violated their country's airspace over an uninhabited island south of Tokyo.

U.S. officials tracked and monitored the bombers as two flew south along the Japanese coast, and two others flew farther east, coming closer to the Nimitz and the guided missile cruiser USS Princeton.

As the bombers got about 500 miles out from the U.S. ships, four F/A-18 fighters were launched from the Nimitz, the official said. The fighters intercepted the Russian bombers about 50 miles south of the Nimitz.

At least two U.S. F/A-18 Hornets trailed the bomber as it came in low over the Nimitz twice, while one or two of the other U.S. fighters followed the second bomber as it circled.

The official said there were no verbal communications between the U.S. and the Russians, and the Pentagon has not heard of any protests being filed by the United States. Historically, diplomatic protests were not filed in such incidents because they were so common during the Cold War era.

This is the first time Russian Tupolevs have flown over or interacted with a U.S. carrier since 2004.

In that incident, a Russian Tupolev flew over the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk in the Sea of Japan on Jan. 29, 2004. Since then, however, relations between the U.S. and Russia have deteriorated to their worst point since the Cold War, largely due to the United States' plans to put a radar system in the Czech Republic and 10 missile defense interceptors in Poland.

The U.S. has defended the plan as necessary to protect its European allies from possible attacks by Iran. But the Kremlin has condemned the proposal, saying it would threaten Russia's security.

"We are being forced to take retaliatory steps," said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who also warned that a new arms race is under way.

Japan, meanwhile, filed a formal protest with the Russian Embassy in Tokyo after Saturday's incident, saying that one of the Russian bombers crossed into Japanese airspace for three minutes. Russia has denied there was an intrusion.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; bmd; cccp; coldwar2; communism; missiledefense; navair; putin; redairforce; redjihad; russia; securitybreach; sovietunion; usa; ussnimitz; ussr
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To: Non-Sequitur
Being intercepted at 50 miles out is not procedure...well, I guess it may be now. Point is, it is far too late at that point for an aircraft that may have cruise missiles.

...and allowing them to overfly the carrier directly at 2k ft or 600m is also not standard procedure either.

101 posted on 02/11/2008 6:29:31 PM PST by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: GreyWolf
Cold war SOP. They use to make almost daily overflights when I was in Tonkin aboard the America. Jeez, I’ve got more pics of Badgers and Bears than I have of our birds. Of course, there were always a flight of F-4s covering the camera ports and two trailing behind at missle range watching the bombbay doors. they always made direct straight-in approach and we always knew well ahead of time they were coming, long enough to go below and retrieve your camera.

I remember quite a few nights after hitting the rack hearing "Now launch the alert CAT". A minute later you heard the thud {down at waterline} then rolled over for some sleep. Another Bear mets a waiting Tomcat. The buzzing was just a part of it. The trawlers 12 miles aft were annoying as well. We got buzzed but like you say our guys had a ready hot one ready to go up their exhaust if need be and Ivan knew it too.

As long as the challengers are intercepted before their arrival that means our Navy is doing it's job. If not then the Operations Officer got a lot of xplainun to do to the resident ComCARGROUP. An undetected sub is a much larger threat.

103 posted on 02/11/2008 6:34:17 PM PST by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: Jeff Head; STARWISE
When you take the time to think about what the damage results would be if a Russian bomber pilot flipped out did decide to take out the USS Nimitz, CVN68, you almost get physically sickened. It would kill twice as many as we lost on 9/11/2001 when the Trade Towers went down, 6000 personnel and aircrews.

Next time they pull a stunt like this, my vote says to take the plane down.

104 posted on 02/11/2008 6:35:12 PM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: STARWISE
Yes.

Thanks for the good picture!

105 posted on 02/11/2008 6:39:36 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Flavius
"We are being forced to take retaliatory steps," said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who also warned that a new arms race is under way.

Which you'll lose. Again. Makes me want to re-join the submarine Navy.

106 posted on 02/11/2008 6:43:10 PM PST by Doohickey (McCain 2008: A President with Tourette's will make press conferences interesting...)
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To: trumandogz
What Would Hillary Do?

Shed a tear, hope that being teary eyed will gain support of those who could handle the situation and ask them for a donation when they have resolved the situation.

107 posted on 02/11/2008 6:46:17 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Flavius
If it flew over the Nimitz, twice, then the question should be “Why didn’t it get shot down?”

I thought such areas were “No fly, no way” zones. Wander into them and meet a bad end.

108 posted on 02/11/2008 6:49:45 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF
Time to play tit for tat until the whole corrupt mess comes tumbling down again.

Question is, who's playing tit and who's playing tat?

There have been a number of pictures on the internet over the past few weeks of USN P-3s doing close flybys of the Kuznetsov as she's doing a Med deployment. This is probably a response to that ... but that is probably a response to those SUs buzzing Kitty Hawk a few years back.

There's a great story of how miserable the USN made Novorossiysk's transit through the Med and around Africa to join the Soviet Pacific Fleet (back when the Egyptians prohibited carriers to transit Suez). The USN (with the RN playing a significant supporting role) pretty much harassed the ship from the moment it transited the Bosperous (sp?)

At one point the Sovs had a high-ranking Indian delegation aboard for a dog/pony show and thought they had plenty of distance between themselves and a tailing CSG. The USN pulled a mock Alpha Strike on them (while the Indian dignataries were up on the flightdeck) from MUCH further away than the Sovs thought possible.
109 posted on 02/11/2008 6:50:08 PM PST by tanknetter
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To: EGPWS

What
Will
Dubya
Do?


110 posted on 02/11/2008 6:51:13 PM PST by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: maquiladora
If the Tupolev turbo prop was considered a threat to the Nimitz, the Nimitz would have resolved the threat 300 miles earlier without issue.

The point I conveyed.

111 posted on 02/11/2008 6:51:43 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jacquerie

WHatsa trailing tattle tail?


112 posted on 02/11/2008 6:52:04 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?)
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To: meandog; TitansAFC

We need President John McCain.


113 posted on 02/11/2008 6:52:58 PM PST by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Gondring
And frozen turkeys just happen to fall out of F/A-18s... ;-)

As God as my witness, I thought that turkeys could fly!

114 posted on 02/11/2008 6:53:08 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Flavius

The admiral of the Nimitz should be relieved of command and should be dishonorably discharged. What a disgrace.

Our military is becoming very lazy and terrible. It is time for a reorganization of the military. Some generals and admirals need to be relieved of duty.


115 posted on 02/11/2008 6:54:20 PM PST by racing fan
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To: Semper911

Maybe they are.

The Russians and not very happy with Iran’s recent missile tests. Maybe they are starting to wonder if they will have to go whack Iran again, and would like some back up.


116 posted on 02/11/2008 6:59:30 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: trumandogz
What Will Dubya Do?

Retire and relax, after a tenure of formidable work at maintaining our sovereignty via defense of our freedoms, in about 11 months.

Any more questions?

117 posted on 02/11/2008 6:59:35 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: JamesA

Same with the CVA63. Kinda makes ya wonder what the silent service is doing these days, eh?


118 posted on 02/11/2008 7:00:08 PM PST by glock rocks (My feeling is we’ve bowed too far to the idiots. -- Peggy Noonan)
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To: Flavius

so sofar, Google and gaYNetNews is reporthing this....is there a credible source?


119 posted on 02/11/2008 7:01:16 PM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Army Air Corps; B4Ranch
At least JFK would be better than any of the Dems in national office today.

... and a big chunk of the R's. Times have changed.

120 posted on 02/11/2008 7:01:37 PM PST by glock rocks (My feeling is we’ve bowed too far to the idiots. -- Peggy Noonan)
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