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Clinton v. Obama: The Lawsuit (Will Florida Supreme Court decide who is the Dem Nominee?)
WSJ ^ | 2/11 | Ted Olson

Posted on 02/11/2008 12:21:44 AM PST by bshomoic

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Imagine that as the convention approaches, Sen. Clinton is leading in the popular vote, but Sen. Obama has the delegate lead. Surely no one familiar with her history would doubt that her take-no-prisoners campaign team would do whatever it took to capture the nomination, including all manner of challenges to Obama delegates and tidal waves of litigation. [Barack Obama]

Indeed, it has already been reported that Sen. Clinton will demand that the convention seat delegates from Michigan and Florida, two states whose delegates have been disqualified by the party for holding January primaries in defiance of party rules. The candidates agreed not to campaign in those states. But Sen. Clinton opted to keep her name on the Michigan primary ballot, and staged a primary-day victory visit to Florida, winning both of those unsanctioned primaries. Her campaign is arguing that the delegates she won in each state be recognized despite party rules and notwithstanding her commitment not to compete in those primaries. Of course. "Count every vote."

As the convention nears, with Sen. Clinton trailing slightly in the delegate count, the next step might well be a suit in the Florida courts challenging her party's refusal to seat Florida's delegation at the convention. And the Florida courts, as they did twice in 2000, might find some ostensible legal basis for overturning the pre-election rules and order the party to recognize the Clinton Florida delegates. That might tip the balance to Sen. Clinton.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bo; clinton; cutitaway; democrat; democrats; dncvalues; hillary; liberalagenda; obama; sawitoff
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1 posted on 02/11/2008 12:21:46 AM PST by bshomoic
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To: bshomoic

Remember...

“This is the most important election of our lifetime.”

- H. Clinton


2 posted on 02/11/2008 12:29:58 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: bshomoic
Maybe, but with Jeb Bush having appointed a couple of the Florida Supreme Court justices there would at least be a dissent pointing out how ridiculous the court looks this time.
3 posted on 02/11/2008 12:41:16 AM PST by Moral Hazard (This election mess is Iowa's fault. From 2012 on make them vote last (or not at all).)
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To: bshomoic

Clinton is no longer nearly as popular with Democrats as Obama. Most of the Democrats are going to be really mad, if she’s nominated. She would be more easily defeated in the general election, though.


4 posted on 02/11/2008 12:42:43 AM PST by familyop (Stay away from my precious bodily fluids, bro!)
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To: bshomoic

Stupid premise ... the super delegates will determine the dem nominee.


5 posted on 02/11/2008 12:51:27 AM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: familyop

"That Obama is sooooo hot right now. Let's vote for him."

6 posted on 02/11/2008 12:59:35 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

That’s good...really good! LOL!


7 posted on 02/11/2008 1:14:28 AM PST by familyop (Don't go messin' with my precious bodily fluids, bro!)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
IMO, it's time to contribute some historical ugly to the contemporary ugly. Democrats, especially feminist leaders among them, are shrewd racists.




Constitutional Argument:
Speech After Being Convicted Of Voting
In The 1872 Presidential Election
by Susan B. Anthony

Excerpt:
An oligarchy of learning, where the educated govern the ignorant, or even an oligarchy of race, where the Saxon rules the African, might be endured; but this oligarchy of sex, which makes father, brothers, husband, sons, the oligarchs over the mother and sisters, the wife and daughters, of every household - which ordains all men sovereigns, all women subjects, carries dissension, discord, and rebellion into every home of the nation.





Susan B. Anthony went on to travel and speak with the Democrat racist, George Train. She refused to advocate against lynchings.
8 posted on 02/11/2008 1:33:28 AM PST by familyop (Don't go messin' with my precious bodily fluids, bro!)
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To: Moral Hazard

I’m glad your mentioned Jeb Bush. I believe Jeb Bush may be John McCain’s VP come this November.


9 posted on 02/11/2008 1:35:52 AM PST by SatinDoll (Desperately seeking a conservative candidate.)
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To: bshomoic

If this becomes the scene it will turn off so many Obamma voters that Mrs. Clinton will get her clock cleaned in the general.
She is disliked and distrusted by a near majority of the populace at this point. She will really appear terribly if she goes through this kind of crap to win the nomination
Course she couldn’t be lower in my esteem regardless of what she may do in the near future.
She is a liar, thief, enabler of a serial sexual pervert and imho has had many folks who offed who tried to go against her sorry butt.


10 posted on 02/11/2008 3:01:25 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: SatinDoll
I’m glad your mentioned Jeb Bush. I believe Jeb Bush may be John McCain’s VP come this November.

it would be great to see another Bush in the White House, but I don't think that's going to happen.

And it's good that you don't see Jeb as pres. He's proven impotent in the face of the Euthenasia machine.

And, florida did what it wanted to do (and what it always did) the entire time he was governor: bought and sold souls.

11 posted on 02/11/2008 3:09:27 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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To: bshomoic

Florida: saw it off and cut it away.


12 posted on 02/11/2008 3:13:03 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (anyone can be a soldier in peacetime.)
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I actually think there is a stronger case to be made for upholding the DNC rule against the early Florida primary.

The DNC, like the RNC, is a private organization like the Odd Fellows or, in this case, the Liar's Club. That is why the two parties fought, and won, in court when the State of California presumed to pass a law requiring open primaries in that state. The constitutional right of free association does not permit the state to decide what a club's rules are.

Consequently SCOTUS could, and IMHO would, overturn the SCoFLaws if they tried to change the rules of the national Democratic Party without any need to reference Bush v. Gore. Probably unanimously.

But Olsen's point about how Hillary's attempt to change the DNC's rules post hoc, after having fussed and fumed about the Electoral College back in '00, is a delicious irony.


13 posted on 02/11/2008 4:08:25 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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To: bshomoic

Electing Hillary is much more important than rules.


14 posted on 02/11/2008 4:27:47 AM PST by ricks_place
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To: SatinDoll

Doubt it. Too much Bush fatigue. Similar to Clinton fatigue.


15 posted on 02/11/2008 4:55:34 AM PST by tips up
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To: MHGinTN
The super delegates in NJ are already preparing to jump the HMS Hillary.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967626/posts

16 posted on 02/11/2008 4:59:01 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the work of the media.)
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To: mware

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1967626/posts


17 posted on 02/11/2008 4:59:24 AM PST by mware (Americans in arm chairs doing the work of the media.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

You are correct. By the DNC rules there were no primaries.

It logically and legally follows that if there was no primary, there was no winner and there are no delegates.


18 posted on 02/11/2008 5:05:27 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . "You can't be that way"......... Clint)
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To: bshomoic
Should they begin tallying up chads again. Just love the Dem Party. Can’t even stick to their own rules. They just have to keep changing the goal post to suit themselves.
19 posted on 02/11/2008 5:06:12 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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Should they begin tallying up chads again? Just love the Dem Party. Can’t even stick to their own rules. They just have to keep changing the goal post to suit themselves.
20 posted on 02/11/2008 5:06:56 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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