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Solar Activity Diminishes; Researchers Predict Another Ice Age
dailytech.com ^ | February 9, 2008 | Michael Asher

Posted on 02/09/2008 12:25:57 PM PST by neverdem

Global Cooling comes back in a big way

Dr. Kenneth Tapping is worried about the sun. Solar activity comes in regular cycles, but the latest one is refusing to start. Sunspots have all but vanished, and activity is suspiciously quiet. The last time this happened was 400 years ago -- and it signaled a solar event known as a "Maunder Minimum," along with the start of what we now call the "Little Ice Age."

Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, says it may be happening again. Overseeing a giant radio telescope he calls a "stethoscope for the sun," Tapping says, if the pattern doesn't change quickly, the earth is in for some very chilly weather.

During the Little Ice Age, global temperatures dropped sharply. New York Harbor froze hard enough to allow people to walk from Manhattan to Staten Island, and in Britain, people reported sighting eskimos paddling canoes off the coast. Glaciers in Norway grew up to 100 meters a year, destroying farms and villages.

But will it happen again?

In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov predicted the sun would soon peak, triggering a rapid decline in world temperatures. Only last month, the view was echoed by Dr. Oleg Sorokhtin, a fellow of the Russian Academy of Natural Sciences. who advised the world to "stock up on fur coats." Sorokhtin, who calls man's contribution to climate change "a drop in the bucket," predicts the solar minimum to occur by the year 2040, with icy weather lasting till 2100 or beyond.

Observational data seems to support the claims -- or doesn't contradict it, at least. According to data from Britain's Met Office, the earth has cooled very slightly since 1998. The Met Office says global warming "will pick up again shortly." Others aren't so sure.

Researcher Dr. Timothy Patterson, director of the Geoscience Center at Carleton University, shares the concern. Patterson is finding "excellent correlations" between solar fluctuations, a relationship that historically, he says doesn't exist between CO2 and past climate changes. According to Patterson. we shouldn't be surprised by a solar link. "The sun [is] the ultimate source of energy on this planet," he says.

Such research dates back to 1991, when the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study showing that world temperatures over the past several centuries correlated very closely with solar cycles. A 2004 study by the Max Planck Institute found a similar correlation, but concluded the timing was only coincidental, as the solar variance seemed too small to explain temperature changes.

However, researchers at DMI continued to work, eventually discovering what they believe to be the link. The key factor isn't changes in solar output, but rather changes in the sun's magnetosphere A stronger field shields the earth more from cosmic rays, which act as "seeds" for cloud formation. The result is less cloud cover, and a warming planet. When the field weakens, clouds increases, reflecting more light back to space, and the earth cools off.

Recently, lead researcher Henrik Svensmark was able to experimentally verify the link between cosmic rays and cloud formation, in a cloud chamber experiment called "SKY" at the Danish National Space Center. CERN plans a similar experiment this year.

A few years ago, Stanford University's Hoover Institution also reported finding a correlation between the sun and climate. Hoover

Even NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies -- long the nation's most ardent champion of anthropogenic global warming -- is getting in on the act. Drew Shindell, a researcher at GISS, says there are some "interesting relationships we don't fully understand" between solar activity and climate.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: agw; catastrophism; climatechange; globalwarming; maunderminimum; notmanmade; solar; solaractivity; sunspots; thecomingiceage
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To: UCANSEE2
The general public aren't doing what the scientists in these prestigious research centers are doing now: spending money on expensive toys.
161 posted on 02/10/2008 10:23:18 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: UCANSEE2
But yes, many people find OTT armageddon stories to be titillating. Others want to put a man on Mars within a decade, some are waiting for the successor to the bubonic plague, while still others obsess over whatever shows up in People Magazine or Reader's Digest.
162 posted on 02/10/2008 10:29:23 AM PST by dr_who_2
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To: LiberConservative

My husband and I are building an underground house with a greenhouse. Then we won’t have to worry about it one way or the other.


163 posted on 02/10/2008 11:16:54 AM PST by Marie (Why is it that some people believe everything that happens is the will of G-d - except Israel?)
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164 posted on 02/10/2008 3:19:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Is this just like the one we were heading into in the 70’s?


165 posted on 02/10/2008 3:30:14 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I occasionally get PERL messages, but I doubt that they’re related to the size of the ping list. It seems to me that they can happen any ol’ time.


167 posted on 02/10/2008 4:47:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cloverfield 2008! Why vote for a lesser monster?)
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To: neverdem

BTTT bookmark


168 posted on 02/10/2008 5:03:46 PM PST by FBD ("I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good president," ~ John McCain on NBC's "Meet the Press)
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To: neverdem; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Patterson is finding "excellent correlations" between solar fluctuations, a relationship that historically, he says doesn't exist between CO2 and past climate changes. According to Patterson. we shouldn't be surprised by a solar link. "The sun [is] the ultimate source of energy on this planet," he says.

No firckin' kidding. Some genius has figured it out.

Good post.

169 posted on 02/10/2008 7:38:00 PM PST by Barnacle (Reagan Republicanism R.I.P.)
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To: L,TOWM
Anyone else other than me feel pretty dammed sad that the only people that seem to be speaking with some honesty and real research into climate change are the RUSSIANS?

The Russians are by far the largest high-latitude country and will be greatly effected by any real climate change. They have a big stake in trying to figure out what really going on with the climate, either warming or cooling, and in being correct with their predictions.

Western environuts are only concerned with furthering their agenda of the economic control of individuals. They don't need to be right or wrong because "the debate is already finished".

170 posted on 02/10/2008 8:51:19 PM PST by GATOR NAVY (Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.)
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To: neverdem

At this rate Barbra Streisand’s laundry will be freezing on her clothes line.


171 posted on 02/11/2008 5:18:52 AM PST by syriacus (McCain promises to transfer all Gitmo prisoners to Ft. Leavenworth on his first day as president.)
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To: dirtboy
Don't see any sunspots. Can't remember the last time I went to Spaceweather.com and didn't see any.

My husband likes to show sunspots to kids who visit his StarLab program. (He projects them on a flat surface).

They have seen very few this year.

172 posted on 02/11/2008 5:22:53 AM PST by syriacus (McCain promises to transfer all Gitmo prisoners to Ft. Leavenworth on his first day as president.)
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To: bboop
Hey, how are we going to have an Ice Age if the glaciers are melting??? I am soooooo confused.

Volcanic activity under the ice.

173 posted on 02/11/2008 5:24:09 AM PST by Paperpusher
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To: familyop

Here’s the article that explains why the temps are going down... what some astronomers have been predicting for the last two years.


174 posted on 03/04/2008 3:10:31 PM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: patriciaruth
Global Warming my arse... here in central florida today the temp is currently 59 degrees. Still no solar spot activity. Feels great here and I want to remember this in July and August.

Curious about how this affects Hurricane season???

175 posted on 04/13/2008 7:40:06 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Terri Schindler S., RIP 3-31-2005)
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To: Rapunzel

We were at 92 today in the Central Valley of California, while my sister got a snow fall record for the date last week in Anchorage.

Those Chinese curses can be deadly.


176 posted on 04/13/2008 9:56:01 PM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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