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McCain Could Become the Reagan of Fiscal Discipline
Human Events ^ | 2/08/2008 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 02/09/2008 8:35:27 AM PST by rob777

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To: Just mythoughts

McCain is a Conservative Republican. You’re a Movement Conservative. That’s the distinction, and I think it’s time to go back to that distinction, the way it used to be, because we’re in this situation now where some folks are claiming that Conservatism is a far smaller group than it actually is.

I consider myself a small c conservative (I am not a Republican and never have been), and I accept that I am not a Movement Conservative, I reject the notion that I am not a conservative because I don’t agree with Movement COnservatives 100% of the time.

To me, McCain’s demand in 2001 that the Bush tax cuts be paired with spending cuts was the true conservative position, and Bush’s acceptance of massive spending plus tax cuts was a betrayal of conservatism.

I don’t get why McCain is so hated when the guys that really screwed Movement Conservatism are the Neocons who hijacked the movement and tarnished the brand.


101 posted on 02/09/2008 10:07:59 AM PST by tripitaka
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To: Grunthor

“What are we going to do about it now???”

Most likely lose in a landslide reminiscent of Reagan/Mondale. Then...the party needs to do some major restructuring of it’s primary system before ‘12. Move strong conservative states to the front. Only these states can be winner-take-all. Iowa, New Hampshire, New York.....all to the back.. Give the more reliably conservative states more than half of the delegates needed to win. Close all the primaries, NO indies, NO dims.

Perhaps then that party would put forth their first conservative candidate since 1984.

..I agree the poor primary system is a large part of what got us here now. It does need to be changed ASAP so we don’t have this situation again. We need to learn from our mistakes of surely we will make them again.


102 posted on 02/09/2008 10:09:16 AM PST by rolling_stone (same)
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To: Grunthor
Fiscal Discipline and the war in Iraq are the only two areas that I trust this cretin

Unfortunately, McCain can't even live up to fiscal discipline with his willingness to offer nothing but freebies ranging from Social Security to free healthcare and free schooling for the illegal invaders.

And it doesn't help that Mr. McAmnesty has Juan "La Raza" Hernandez on his payroll. That in itself speaks volumes to McAmnesty's intention of telling Americans to "calm down" while he rolls out the red carpet for illegals.

103 posted on 02/09/2008 10:18:03 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: DManA
And your inaction will give the white house to Hillarama who will be happy to gut the 2nd as well

Congratulations

104 posted on 02/09/2008 10:18:54 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: N3WBI3
And to call a navel commander a civil service boob is despicable..

He commanded a bellybutton? Whoa...

105 posted on 02/09/2008 10:19:59 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: tripitaka
That would have been the conservative position but not McCain's position. At the time he complained about tax cuts for the rich. On that issue at that time he was a Liberal Republican. The adjective in front of the word Republican changes from issue to issue and moment to moment.

To me, McCain’s demand in 2001 that the Bush tax cuts be paired with spending cuts was the true conservative position,

106 posted on 02/09/2008 10:20:02 AM PST by DManA
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To: muir_redwoods
I accept not a whit of blame. Republicans were given plenty of notice that McCain was unacceptable to a large number of people he needs to get elected. I’m not happy but I won’t take the blame for something I’m not responsible for.
107 posted on 02/09/2008 10:22:25 AM PST by DManA
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To: tripitaka
McCain is a Conservative Republican.

Not so sure about that. Last I saw, "Conservative Republicans" didn't champion the abrogation of First and Second Amendment rights, favor embryonic stem-cell research (essentially pro-abortion advocacy), nor did they roll out the red carpet for illegal invaders or put La Raza drones on their payroll.

McCain is not a "conservative" by anyone's definition except in the eyes of the far-Left Democrats and their media lackeys.

108 posted on 02/09/2008 10:23:06 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: Digital Sniper
And people so disgusted by Hillary they'd swallow swords if it kept her out of the White House.

McCain is not a "conservative" by anyone's definition except in the eyes of the far-Left Democrats and their media lackeys.

109 posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:01 AM PST by DManA
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To: rob777

Melanie Morgan mentioned yesterday that he had Tides Foundation advisors on his campaign staff, but didn’t name names.


110 posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:25 AM PST by tertiary01 (Not voting for the lesser of two evils ever again.)
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To: rob777

“McCain largely has refused to be led into temptation.”

Right!!

This boneheaded move won’t cost the taxpayer.....

Bill to improve health care…in Mexico! McCain strikes again!
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2008/02/bill-to-improve-health-carein-mexico.html


111 posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:35 AM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: N3WBI3

The record:

Voted against Bush tax cuts twice (only 2GOP / with Lincoln Chafee)
…stated due to “tax cuts for the rich” typical liberal class warfare
Voted for Ruth Bader Ginsberg…
…but formed Gang 14 to prevent Bush’s appointments
McCain - Feingold : against free political speech hurt GOP
Voted against ANWAR drilling
Supports Gore’s radical Global Warming approach
McCain - Kennedy amnest for illegal immigrants
Against Arizona Prop200 requireing ID to vote/collect welfare (passed with 46%Hispanics)
Open borders advocate/advisor VincenteFox Juan Hernandez in campaign
Close Gitmo, allow POW US court access
Supports 50cent has tax hike for global warming
Against Reagan’s Freedom Fighters in Nicarauga / El Salvador
Tie the hands of the CIA be legally redefining waterboarding as torture
Hasn’t been to CPAC in many, many years
Also NoShows: Club for Growth, Heritage Foundation


112 posted on 02/09/2008 10:27:41 AM PST by rbmillerjr (Big Government Evangelicals.....leading conservatives to Landslide 2012)
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To: rob777

BTTT!


113 posted on 02/09/2008 10:29:55 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ARE SOLE

Not to mention the amnesty fiasco which would billions and billions for all the benefits and freebees for the families of our “new” citizens.


114 posted on 02/09/2008 10:33:00 AM PST by lone star annie
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To: All

115 posted on 02/09/2008 10:35:11 AM PST by Brian S. Fitzgerald ("We're going to drag that ship over the mountain.")
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To: DManA
Can't say I agree. I don't see voting for Hillary(R) as a way of defeating Hillary(D). If anything, more congressional Republicans would go along with the McCain suicide pact than the Hillary suicide pact.
116 posted on 02/09/2008 10:54:23 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
Oh noooooooooooooo!


117 posted on 02/09/2008 10:55:12 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: rbmillerjr
Thanks for posting that. I hold out some hope that, if the facts are presented long enough, it will get through to those who think voting for a Clintonesque liberal is somehow "okay" so long as that liberal has an 'R' by his name.

You'd think people would have learned their lesson after supporting Schwarzenegger who, true to prediction, has been nothing but a Kennedy with an 'R' by his name.

118 posted on 02/09/2008 10:57:46 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: MizSterious

I am doing the same thing. Another poster pointed out that if we go to the polls and leave the presidency blank or vote for a Dem or write in a candidate(doesn’t matter) but then vote down the line for Repubs, this will show the power of the conservative vote and perhaps next time we will be able to vote for and acceptable candidate. The rigged primaries anointed McCain before many conservatives could even vote as planned by country club Repubs. I am taking a stand now.


119 posted on 02/09/2008 10:57:56 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: bronxboy

Yeah!! This author has it right!! McCain will impose Fiscal Discipline in Washington after he stops the building of the fence and allowing Latin America to come into the USA and send the medical cost so high man will not be able to count the loss..........I am spewing with revulsion


120 posted on 02/09/2008 11:03:15 AM PST by Mojohemi
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