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To: NoGrayZone; seekthetruth; flaglady47
Has it ever occurred to anyone shooting their pop guns here that perhaps Fred believes he can do more good for conservatism in some spot in the inside of a McCain administration than on the outside?

Although I doubt it, Fred may have already been offered the veep or some important post....where he can actually do some good.

Has it ever occurred to anyone that 90% of politics is hammered out behind closed doors.....and not one soul here knows what's going on behind the scenes now with McCain, Hucklebee, Fred, Guiliani, etc.

This is not "selling out" by any one of them....and not "treason" by anyone. They're all doing what politicians do in the big leagues, cutting deals, making pacts and alliances, whatever. They will all win something if the GOP wins.....and just maybe, just maybe, folks, some of them have the good of the Republic in mind, not the socialism, marxism of a Hillary/Osama administration.

Fred doesn't NEED anything from McCain at all. It's the other way around, folks. Fred can have a good life with his family doing his occasional acting gigs, giving speeches, doing lectures at colleges to skulls full of mush, whatever. No one will ever have to have a tag day for Fred.

This is politics we're seeing. So many conservatives are unsophisticated about the inner workings. What's going on this week in endorsements is what's been going in since Washington, Lincoln, Reagan, LBJ, JFK, GWB. The Democrats or Republicans or Whigs will rally round their party when the candidate is chosen. What should they do, leave the party?

Our political system is sometimes weird and sometimes disappointing or enraging, but it's our system. A heck of a lot of countries in this world have very peaceable elections with no infighting or deals. In fact, many of them have one-party systems or no elections at all.

Toughen up to things as they are and not as some folks would like it to be.

Vote for the preservation of the Republic....don't stay home......the marxists and commies are banging at D.C.'s gate. We have to swallow hard and keep them out.

Fred hasn't turned into a liberal overnight....too many folks have no faith or trust in ANYTHING or ANYBODY any more and are trying to get the rest of us on FR to be the same way. This is one of the planks in the marxist agenda, lose all faith and become cynical about your great country.

The nihilist political posts on this forum won't work with me at all.

Leni

353 posted on 02/08/2008 8:15:19 PM PST by MinuteGal (Mitt and Fred are Still My Guys!)
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To: MinuteGal
>......the marxists and commies are banging at D.C.’s gate. We have to swallow hard and keep them out.

Leni, leni. I feel your pain. :shakes head:
I’ve seen you flit from one candidate to another, always saying this one, this time will be different; that this one isn’t the best, but it the best that we have.
You must have been a cheerleader, at least in your heart - and I believe that you speak from the heart, but these people are all - every one - going to betray you.

We need to consolidate what is left, and keep in power those good people left in Congress because the executive branch is lost. - and will stay so until the GOP returns from its mad dash leftward - If it can.
Work at the local and state levels to elect better Representatives to Congress.
And that is not nihilism, that is facing the reality of the coming 30 state loss in November, and the reasons for that loss.
Which include the fact that the GOP elite may not even care about temporary losses in power in order to permanently change the agenda of the GOP and leave the conservative movement in the dustbin of political history.

>the marxists and commies are banging at D.C.’s gate.

Those people are already here. - and McCain/Kennedy was designed to keep them here and make them able to legally outvote you and I.

Whatever is being hammered out behind closed doors includes that 900 gorilla in the living room of America, as well,
and voting for the GOP at this stage is not going to help one whit when the very architect of that bill is your current candidate. - but you go ahead and good luck to you. - I mean that.


490 posted on 02/08/2008 9:00:17 PM PST by bill1952 (I will vote for McCain if he resigns his Senate seat before this election.)
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To: MinuteGal
Has it ever occurred to anyone that 90% of politics is hammered out behind closed doors.....and not one soul here knows what's going on behind the scenes now with McCain, Hucklebee, Fred, Guiliani, etc.

It looks like NOT.

Most seem to even think that the candidate gets to arbitrarily pick their running mate.

The grownups have decided it's time to circle the wagons against the real enemy - and get a head start on them while they're still squabbling in the mud

568 posted on 02/08/2008 9:45:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: MinuteGal

Wow! I am on my feet applauding! That needed to be said. Thank you. I just hope people are listening. It makes the whiners in this thread look so petty and selfish.


1,002 posted on 02/09/2008 5:36:02 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: MinuteGal
Has it ever occurred to anyone shooting their pop guns here that perhaps Fred believes he can do more good for conservatism in some spot in the inside of a McCain administration than on the outside

I'm sure he thinks that.

My response: Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

1,007 posted on 02/09/2008 5:40:34 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: MinuteGal
Has it ever occurred to anyone shooting their pop guns ...

The answer of course, is no!

Are the people on here whining the type of Americans who we like to think of as winning WWII or the Cold War? Pop gun is right. The way people throw around "treason" etc when things don't go their way. Ugh! Way to lay it out Leni.

1,052 posted on 02/09/2008 6:21:49 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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