Posted on 02/04/2008 11:18:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
Just got to get Fred out of Washington for a year or two. The beltway seems to grind these guys right up. I think the close proximity to so many liberal voices tends to cloud one’s thinking. Though I do think Fred had a valid point on this issue.
The original non-filtered conservatism worked fine.
"Gimme that old-time conservatism..."
“Didnt take long for Kristol to kiss up to Sulzberger.”
I think Kristol has basically had liberal ideas except for national security for a very long time - maybe forever. He supported McCain in 2000 in the primaries and it’s no surprise he’s backing him today. I’ve never thought of Kristol as conservative.
Should McCain get the nomination and manage to win in Nov. where do conservatives go from there.
The GOP leadership will rightfully claim that they can win without the conservatives, and the what?
Not to worry. They can’t,
And so the issue is moot.
If they could win without us, not to mention treating us like dirt while doing so, then they would not be spending precious resources in damage control.
Basically, what they are trying to do is piss down your back - and then tell you its raining.
gmta
I see McCain vs. either of the democudas in debate as a repeat of Vice Admiral Stockbridge (RIP):
“Who am I? Why am I here? (How’m I doin’ Teddy?).” Only testier.
Without the immigration issue being satisfactorily addressed, then you will not have to worry about any of those other concerns in America.
Because it won’t be America.
>and pandering to them just simply sounds stupid.
Unbelievably bombastic, self aggrandizing, egocentric, rhetoric pontificating. - Cut it out.
Kristols description of the thought of John McCain as our nominee makes me sick and want to puke is too polite.
And maybe there's nothing wrong with that.
Between Fred Barnes and Bill Kristol, the Weekly Standard is unreadable.
Political expediency trumps ALL ELSE in their D.C. based mindset.
What is it exactly that the clown prince of the beltway “conservatives” wishes to conserve?
Am I the only one who has grown sick of seeing this pinch voiced, imperious, RINO elitist pontificating to us, the great unwashed, about what we should think and how we should behave?
It is not nice to pick of retired people, .............................................................................................................. could I hold you drink.
LOL. Good point.
Little Billy is not one of us. Billy's in a snit. He is behind the push to religiously cleanse the Repub Party and kick conservatives to the curb. He was four-square behind Rino Rooty's failed plot---concentrated on strangling the American political process w/ its important conservative strengths.
The Kristol crowd are cheerleaders for the worst initiatives the current administration has pursued -- including the immigration amnesty atrocity.
The sap-happy Kristols and Giuliani-----the "Everything-For Us-Nothing-For-You" types----know what they can do with their amnesty-loving, religious-hating globalism.
The Kristol crowd lost with Giuliani----now they are backing amnesty-loving McCain.
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Billy Kristol and his daddy are in that nauseating group of big-government globalists. It was Billy's daddy---Giuliani's foreign policy "campaign adviser" ----who announced the shape of things to come, and I quote: "The historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be.....to convert the Republican Party and American conservatism in general, against their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy." By Irving Kristol (Billy's dad).
Team Giuliani was engaged in a very dirty game conducted by remorseless people. Good riddance.
Fred was once with the New Republic before he joined the Standard. That should tell you something.
Giuliani may be out of the race, but his team simply switched horses along with him to McCrazy. A plum position awaits Rudy (and his minions) in any McCain administration (spit).
The day of reckoning for the GOP is just about here...
I thought the NYT dropped his column ...
“............ could I hold you drink.”
Hold muh beer!
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