Posted on 01/31/2008 2:09:25 PM PST by Jim Robinson
My friends, I have to admit that I've been in a bit of a quandary since the Real Conservatives ® Thompson and Hunter dropped out of the race leaving us to to place our bets on one the four headless horsemen. But after having a day or three to sort it all out, I'm beginning to see a ray of hope.
Number one, my worst fear that the pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun social liberal Rudy Giuliani might be nominated, and thereby bring an abrupt and unholy end to the pro-life conservative movement within the GOP has been allayed. His evil culture of death platform has been soundly rejected by the Republican voters. Thank God! If nothing else is gained, that alone is a huge victory for us!
And that leaves us with the unwelcome slippery task of having to determine and select the least evil of the three remaining RINOs. But wait! When choosing between evils, why not choose the good?
McCain is insane and there are many good reasons not to choose him, but I'll list just five: McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Lieberman, the Keating 5, and the Gang of 14. No thanks. McCain is out!
Romney ran on a pro-abortion platform, is pro gay rights, is prone to BIG government solutions, promises anything to anyone for a vote, and flip-flops on important issues. Can't trust him.
Now Governor Huckabee. Could this be the good vs evil? He's a Baptist minister. A genuine 100% pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, Southron Christian social conservative!
And that would be my reason no. 1 to support Huckabee. He has the trust and backing of the Christian evangelicals and the support of the Bible Belt. You cannot win the presidency without the South, and I believe the pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-America Mike Huckabee is the most likely of the three GOP hopefuls to carry the South. And that's a pretty darn good reason!
My number two reason is that he is NOT McCain (and that's a pretty darn good reason too).
Number three (and this will be a tough one for a lot of my FReeper Friends) is that he is NOT Romney.
Numbers four and five are he's NOT Hillary and NOT Obama. Oohrah!
Number six, he plays a mean bass and he's a traditional favorite at Free Republic's infamous quadrennial Inaugural Balls in Washington, DC. Perhaps we could persuade President Huckabee to drop by our ball and perform his rocking rendition of "Sweet Home Alabama!" Now, wouldn't that be a hoot!
Number seven, if we can keep Huckabee in the race all the way through, thus preventing McCain or Romney from gaining enough delegates to win the nomination, then maybe, just maybe a deadlocked convention might seek out another candidate. One who can re-unite the Reagan Coalition, save the GOP, and put us back on the conservative track. Of course, my personal favorite to be that man would be FRed Thompson.
Woo hoo!!
Let it ring out through grassroots America and on to the convention! Support life! Support the GOP! Support Huckabee! And re-draft FRed Thompson!!
Never give in, never give up, and never lose hope.
Long live the Reagan Revolution!
Thank you.
Well, Jim, you and I seem to disagree about Mike Huckabee's character but so be it. What I wonder is why you think that increasing Huckabee's delegate count at Mitt's expense makes a deal involving Fred Thompson more likely? I would think that if McCain gets to the convention in the lead but with fewer than 50%, and if Huckabee has enough delegates to add with McCain's to reach a solid majority, then the obvious deal for the second ballot would be a McCain/Huckabee ticket. That would be a loser in November and a disaster for America even if it succeeds.
Thanks for the note of clarification. I had thought we were discussing some thing Romney had said.
I applogize if I gave the wrong impresson of Romney based on someone elses statement.
Why Huckabee Raised Taxes
The Arkansas constitution, in a measure that should be lauded by all fiscal conservatives, requires that the state budget be balanced.
More than 90% of the state’s budget is spent on education, Medicare, prisons, and human services.
Naturally, cutting spending is always the first response of conservatives, as it was for Governor Huckabee. But that solution is inadequate when there is very little discretionary spending available in the budget.
Unable to resort to deficit spending (as other candidates are able to do) the Arkansas Legislature was forced to raise taxes to pay for infrastructure repair, conservation efforts, court-mandated education expenditures, and unfunded federal mandates.
Governor Huckabee returned almost $400 million to Arkansas taxpayers. He believes it is immoral to take more money from taxpayers than is needed to run the government, and if a surplus occurs because of growth in the economy and good fiscal policy, it should be returned to the people.
He was the first Governor of Arkansas to pass a broad-based tax cut in the history of the state.
He also doubled the standard deduction to $2,000 for individuals and to $4,000 for married couples, as well as the childcare tax credit and eliminated the marriage penalty.
He eliminated the capital gains tax on the sale of a home.
He eliminated the state income tax for families below the poverty line.
He reduced the capital gains tax for businesses and individuals.
He indexed the income tax to protect people from paying higher taxes because of “bracket creep.”
Governor Huckabee left the state with almost a $1 billion surplus- a state record, setting the stage for further tax reductions. The “Huckabee Surplus” enabled his successor to follow Huckabee’s lead to begin the elimination of the state sales tax on food.
He urged that the surplus should go back to the taxpayers in the form of a rebate or tax cut.
He cut welfare rolls by almost 50 percent.
With respect to the tax and spending that he had under his control, spending rose about six-tenths of one percent a year during his ten-and-a-half year tenure.
I guess even conservatives will sell out for the socialist when push comes to shove.
Me, none of them work. If conservatism survives, it does not buy into any more of this nose holding thing.
Huck can’t win anyway. He already sacrificed himself on the McCain altar.
Hey, folks, the candidate has and was chosen. Vote for him if you dare.
From your keyboard to God's ears, Jim!!
That is the big issue with Ron Paul and something I can't get ignore for a second. Along with my intense opposition to Rudy Giulaini and his long support for liberal issues and liberal causes, Ron Paul was the only other GOP candidate I totally ruled out from the get-go.
Fred Thompson was the only candidate I considered a reliable conservative worth voting for. If Tom Tancredo or Duncan Hunter had caught on, I could have supported them also. As it stands now, I can't support Romney, McCain, or Huckabee for the nomination. The general election is a different story altogether, but I must say, I seriously doubt Romney will ever get my vote at any time.
I looked at the poll for Romney alone and nearly 80% chose him vs Hillary. I couldn’t even pull the trigger under those circumstances.
the only way to deal with the law now is to create successive and upholdable restrictions on abortion. the only way to get to that stage is through CONGRESS.
Folks we need a candidate with coat tails.
McCain has NEGATIVE coat tails so he actually keeps people AWAY from the polls and hurts all the other candidates.
Huckabee is just not coattail worthy and does not bring any shadow to other candidates.
zip.
The analysis that these are politicians who will and do change posistions is not to be underestimated but we also have to keep in mind those that tend to change toward the right vs leaking to the left. (giuliani, mccain to name two)
ben franklin used to praise the art of noble compromise.
We are electing a politician not a don. We need a person who will cut the best deal in politics THAT LEANS TO THE RIGHT.
This might mean passing parental notification instead of an outright ban on abortion.
This may mean lowering taxes instead of a flat tax.
the real question for us, REGARDLESS OF WHO WE SUPPORT, is whether at the end of the day we can work with the person who wins.
I guarantee the left has no acceptable view except the socialist view. We see this with the ignoble fall of FNC. We see this the MSM template on silencing/shutting out conservative views. We see this with wolf blitzer coluding with the DNC to coordinate questions.
Reagan was not perfect but he knew his principles perfectly. He cut deals, he negotiated. That is what we HIRE politicians to do. its a job, not sainthood.
anyways back to the discussion ...
Do we really want McCain’s pro-amnesty campaign manager working with huckabee’s pro-amnesty history in a brokered convention?
Thank you for posting that!
His policy towards North Korea, which has nukes, hides it’s H.E.U., and now proliferates to terrorist states, is unacceptable, and therefore disqualifies him in my book.
That poll on the forum right now has six in ten buying off on Romney. I will say there isn’t anything worth switching to on that list though, unless to broker the convention.
Huckabee as well McCain is for throwing away American sovereignty—in favor of the NAU.
His difference with McCain is that he wants to do it a bit more slowly—and a bit more deviously.
Something I posted on another thread but applies here:
Think about it this way. All the issues people agree with Paul on, are Constitutionally Congress' role, not the Executive. The Executive's primary role is CIC of the Armed Forces and foreign policy. If you had to give a little (which we will have to do no matter what) do you give on something that is the primary duty or something that is a secondary duty? I frankly don't like any of the prospects, but because of the primary role of the President, I support Paul the least.
It's like choosing a doctor if you had to have heart surgery. Do you choose a doctor who you love his bedside manner and has great skill in cosmetic surgery, but not so much skill in heart medicine? Or would you rather have a doctor who can't do jack on cosmetic surgery and has crappy bedside manner, but is well versed in heart surgery?
Remember when weighing everyone to first take into account the Constitutional Role of the President.
I am really surprised all the people who support Paul for President, even though they disagree with him on foreign policy and the war. Those are the main duties of the President. If you like his attitude on spending, taxes, etc, then leave him in Congress- whose duty it is to originate all spending and tax bills.
Huckabee as well McCain is for throwing away American sovereignty—in favor of the NAU.
His difference with McCain is that he wants to do it a bit more slowly—and a bit more deviously.
Without sovereignty the rest of the issues don’t matter much.
Well, let me know so I can root for it. LOL
Newt is like Hillary; he excites strong passions but those are largely negative ones. Fred is more likeable and far less hated.
Well. Once the democrats are onboard it won't take much. lol.
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