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To: ModelBreaker
That would be the President, John McCain and Teddy Kennedy, if I'm not mistaken.

Sorry, doesn't fly. Immigration was not an issue in 2004, and GWB never has changed his position on it, yet he became the target.

It was never possible to get things done that people here on FR wanted. The votes show that the support was not there. We never had a conservative majority in Congress, and in 2006, we even lost the Republican majority.

In two years, you'll wish we had passed this last comprehensive immigration bill because the one that Democrats pass will show you what amnesty and open borders really mean. You can forget border security or any other kind of security for that matter if Hillary/Obama win.

Why were Democrats never attacked over immigration?

2,940 posted on 01/29/2008 7:37:43 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: A.Hun
Why were Democrats never attacked over immigration?

Perhaps because the current R president and the current frontrunner for the next nomination are Democrats on the issue. The whole point is to not have an argument about it in the general election because that would make the general public focus on the issue and it would be clear how the voting public comes down.

Instead we will have a pro-pro amnesty candidate running against a pro-pro-pro amnesty candidate and both of them will make sure the borders remain wide open. Neither of them have any interest in raising the issue against the other because, well, they agree.

3,035 posted on 01/29/2008 7:50:49 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: A.Hun

You nailed it. The thought that immigration was a winning issue was Fools Gold.

One of my friends in NH voted for InSane and I asked why. He said anybody who sits in the Hanoi Hilton for 5 years and asks for my vote has already earned it. I may not agree but it is hard to argue.

Pray for W and Our Troops


3,048 posted on 01/29/2008 7:51:43 PM PST by bray (Too Cynical to be a Lib)
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To: A.Hun
In two years, you'll wish we had passed this last comprehensive immigration bill because the one that Democrats pass will show you what amnesty and open borders really mean. You can forget border security or any other kind of security for that matter if Hillary/Obama win.

I see no difference between what a McCain will produce and what a HRC or Obama will produce in this regard. Both favor open borders and amnesty. Both are in favor of amnesty for convicted felons. All are opposed to the fence (although they had to pretend to support it to get amnesty). The list goes on and on. After all, it was the McCain/Kennedy bill.

And, all of the relevant open borders folks said at the time that the fence would never get funded. Turns out they were right. So the fence was just a head fake anyway.

Do you have ANY reason to think McCain will be better on this issue than a dem?

3,092 posted on 01/29/2008 8:00:05 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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