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Mitt Romney And The Second Amendment
lonestartimes ^ | 2/25/2008

Posted on 01/25/2008 9:59:59 AM PST by JRochelle

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Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate still in the running that is 100% reliable on 2nd Amendment.

Go ahead and flame away, but it’s the truth.


141 posted on 01/25/2008 12:01:20 PM PST by ohioarmedneutrality
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To: CharlesWayneCT

-—The NRA will endorse Romney if he is our nominee. -—

That won’t be good enough for the negabots! They won’t be happy until some sap-headed Democrat is sitting in the Oval Office and they can blame everyone else for it.


142 posted on 01/25/2008 12:02:03 PM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it. I'm optiMITTstic!)
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To: JRochelle

What a lying turd.


143 posted on 01/25/2008 12:04:53 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (And close the damned borders!)
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To: CDHart

being governor will give him experience to be president :)
he’s been threatening for a couple year to run here.


144 posted on 01/25/2008 12:06:16 PM PST by absolootezer0 (white male christian hetero married gun toting SUV driving motorcycle riding conservative smoker)
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To: JRochelle

McCain can’t beat Hillary. Romney can.

I swear, FR in its current state wouldn’t support Governor Reagan in his bid for the White House.


145 posted on 01/25/2008 12:10:24 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Whenever you see a law enforcement officer talk about being a “sportsman,” that means he will let you keep you single shot deer hunting rifle but would prefer to take away all your pistols and semi-automatic rifles. Just for clarification. Real 2nd Amendment defenders talk about the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution, the importance of each, and the original intent of each (they’re not about hunting!).


146 posted on 01/25/2008 12:13:43 PM PST by GnL
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To: CharlesWayneCT
No, license have to be renewed. They are not lifetime.

Further, licenses are issued by the Police chief. It is common for legal, honest, no record citizens to have to go to court to have a judge order a chief to issue a license.

Further, you are required to take, even if you just got out of Delta Force a course. So, getting a gun, besides the gun cost can be a $500, and if you need a lawyer, maybe a $1,500 dollar expense, plus you have pissed off your local Police chief, if you go to court.( On the plus side for the stateist, it makes it hard for racial minorities and the great unwashed peasantry, whom elites everywhere have historical kept unarmed.)

147 posted on 01/25/2008 12:17:43 PM PST by Leisler
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To: JRochelle; Syncro; imd102; redgirlinabluestate; Vaquero; F15Eagle; Beagle8U; Tennessee Nana; ...
Another hour must have passed, because JRochelle (McCain supporter) has posted another lie about Mitt Romney.

The FID card is required even to possess defensive pepper spray. Thus, an impoverished woman who wanted to buy a $15 can of pepper spray was forced by Romney to spend $100 for the privilege of defending her own life.

This is untrue. The fee for the special FID, which were long required in MA for class 4 weapons, including MACE and pepper spray, were not increased. Witness the page of any police department in MA:

Chapter 140 of the Acts of 2003 in Section 34 reduces the fee for first time FID Cards Restricted to Chemical Sprays (Class D) from $100 to $25. Renewals for this restricted FID Card continue to be free. Of the new $25 fee, 50% stays with the town, and 50% goes to the state. The bill was signed by the Governor on November 26, 2003. The wording change in Massachusetts General Laws will occur in Chapter 140, section 129B(9). The $25 fee for all first time FID Cards Restricted to Chemical Sprays (Class D) is now in effect.

Source.

I realize we all disagree with an FID fee at all. I realize we all disagree with an 'assault weapons ban.' I realize many of us would like to reduce the local police department staff and use the savings to train and arm every household with an M16-A2. However, that does not justify lying about Mitt Romney raising the fees on women trying to get pepper spray. The FID has always been in effect in MA, Mitt did not create it. Unfortunately he signed a bill that raised the fees but also did a few good things for gun owners, like extending the terms of the FIDs.

148 posted on 01/25/2008 12:21:54 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: JRochelle

Starts out to appear objective, then it turns into what it really is, a hit piece.

I don’t see any of the candidates as being particularly Pro-Second Amendment. Remember, with little provocation, Huckster, wanted the Federal Government to ban public smoking. I don’t think it would take much to panic that Nanny into an unconstitutional gun ban. Rudy, has always been Anti-Second Amendment. He seems to have only recently offered to mollify his position for the fly-over country. McCain seems to be part of the Kennedy wing of the GOP so we are back to Romney as being no worse and possibly better than his counterparts.


149 posted on 01/25/2008 12:25:07 PM PST by Steamburg (Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: JRochelle

Hope you’re not expecting McCain to help you keep your guns.

http://gunowners.org/pres08/mccain.htm


150 posted on 01/25/2008 12:25:09 PM PST by matthew fuller (John Bolton/ Newt Gingrich 2008)
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To: mbraynard
Mitt’s not a gun guy. Period.
Doesn’t own one, isn’t interested, were nothing in his life.
Temperamentally he’s an establishment son, more comfortable at a Harvard alumni smoker than a VFW.
He has and does support Massachusetts draconian gun laws.
I very much doubt that he is comfortable with what I consider what the rubber meets the road definition of the 2nd is about. The violent, killing opposition to government.
151 posted on 01/25/2008 12:31:37 PM PST by Leisler
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To: JRochelle

I have an idea for the NRA. Since they are being used by political hacks like Romney to show their 2A bonifides. I think the NRA should be paid extra for this service. What do I mean?

Well, I beleive that a lifetime membership for the NRA is $1,000 and I have heard they are even lowering that soon. A yearly membership is $35.

If you are a politician who has never been a member of the NRA previously and attempt to get a membership, they should charge the normal rates + 1,000 %.


152 posted on 01/25/2008 12:34:12 PM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: mbraynard

If he supports a FID card of any sort I won’t vote for him.......

Not one of the current GOP candidates get a pass from me .

Real trouble for real conservatives.


153 posted on 01/25/2008 12:37:45 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: roamer_1
Mittens

"I strongly support the Second Amendment right of Americans to keep and bear arms. I am proud to be among the many decent, law-abiding men and women who safely use firearms.

I firmly believe in the importance of responsible gun ownership and sales. As a member of the National Rifle Association, I do not believe that we need any more federal gun control laws. I also recognize that some types of extreme weapons, those which were not meant for hunting, sport, or self-defense, have no business being on the streets. "

154 posted on 01/25/2008 12:42:00 PM PST by Leisler
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To: andy58-in-nh
...arms..."assault weapons"...

"Assault Weapon is a term invented by the press. The military merely calls them "Small Arms". In the Framer's intent, that means "arms".

One either supports the Second Ammendment or one doesn't. You seem to have given way to the liberals' view of "arms" being something one hunts with. It just isn't so.

155 posted on 01/25/2008 12:42:36 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Leisler
That's mostly true, except MA's gun laws aren't 'draconian,' they just are worse than most states, and Mitt did what he could to make them less draconian. And I think he doesn't want to spend anymore time at a Harvard Alumni event than at a VFW - he'd much rather just be with his wife or family doing a Mormon Family Home Evening and eating jello.

Given his record and those whom he has advising him on the issue, he will likely be the most 'plugged in' president on the 2nd amendment ever elected.

Besides, if he ever did articulate that he understsood the 2nd amendment as "The violent, killing opposition to government", his campaign would be over.

156 posted on 01/25/2008 12:43:01 PM PST by mbraynard
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To: GingisK

Believe me, I haven’t given over to the any of the media’s opinions about
firearms because unlike you and me, they usually don’t own any. And while it might be fair to designate, say, a modified full-auto M4A3 or an after-market AK47 as “assault weapons” I am adamantly opposed to any restrictions on their sale to anyone who isn’t a criminal or crazy.


157 posted on 01/25/2008 12:48:54 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: Stat-boy
You'll notice the candidate that has been at the forefront of this specific issue and in fact was the person who posed the question to Romney is Mike Huckabee.

I saw this series of You Tube videos trying to smear Huckabee on his record and you know what, I didn't find them all that bad and in a few cases I could see the logic and might have supported the measures he took, myself.

Remember something folks, the President can only propose and sign legislation. I don't care if Hillary wins if we have a strongly conservative (not RINO) Congress. If we control the Senate no treaty that springs from the UN on guns will get ratified. No anti-gun Supreme Court nominee will be confirmed. If we control the House any attempts to ramp up the powers of the BATFE can be stopped cold. If necessary the BATFE can be shut down and it's front door padlocked because it can be denied operating funds. All bills for spending (for anything) must originate in the House of Representatives.

However the GOP nomination is possibly out of Huckabee's reach, although a win or even a strong showing here in Florida would likely open up the pipeline to funds and talent. Still, I would vote for either Romney or McCain (whom I dislike intensely) IF either had Huck as the VP. This is a man I tend to trust. Enough that when my wife and I voted early yesterday (FL does that and it's awesome) we both cast our ballots for Huckabee.

158 posted on 01/25/2008 12:49:28 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“The NRA will endorse Romney if he is our nominee.”

They will NEVER endorse that anti gun liberal puke!

Give it up. It ain’t happening!

They know for a fact that they would lose half their membership the day they endorsed him. The NRA isn’t quite as stupid as the Mutt cheerleaders think they are.


159 posted on 01/25/2008 12:52:09 PM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: CDHart
I don't like the idea of voting for any of them. Maybe we could talk Ted Nugent into running?

I suspect that if Mr. Nugent was put under the same scrutiny being applied to the current field of Republican candidates you would find some areas of disagreement with him. We are electing a leader, not cloning ourselves. Romney has demonstrated leadership qualities, sound judgment and regard for the beliefs of others.

160 posted on 01/25/2008 12:53:35 PM PST by Zevonismymuse
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