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ANYONE THINK IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER PARTY?

Posted on 01/23/2008 1:05:47 PM PST by gbscott1954

I was sitting here thinking something that I have thought before several times in recent months. The Republican Party began as a third party championing the cause of abolition and westward expansion. Just was wondering some of your thoughts about if it is time to begin thinking about a new true conservative party dedicated to true conservative principles?


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KEYWORDS: 2008; elections; fred; fredthompson; thirdparty
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To: Slapshot68; All
I’d rather take back the Republican Party than go through starting a whole new one.

Not sure the GOP is the party of conservatives and if it ever was.

Lincoln certainly wasn't a conservative and the conservative movement is ridiculed and marginalized to this day by the majority of GOP politicians.

My point will be proved when either MYTH or McInsane get the nomination or run together.

At that point it will be clear that the GOP is broken and may not be fixable.

There is no reason to be a Republican if they do the same thing as the democrats.

People are deluding themselves when they say Obama/KLinton will be worse when in fact there will be no difference.

NO MATTER WHO WINS, taxes will go up, a socialized medicine mandate enforced by the IRS will be instituted, assault weapons ban will be signed, gay marriage will be forced upon all states, enhanced hate and thought crime legislation will be enacted, government spending will continue to increase and we will cut and run in the WOT which will be portrayed by the MYTHSTER or KLINTOON as BUSH'S fault.

In light of the above it makes a lot of sense to withhold all support from the GOP and start anew, a task much easier today than in the past due to the internet and websites such as this.

I will be changing my party affiliation to independent and would welcome suggestions on a name for a new party that all conservatives could support in lieu of and to counter the Republicans.

61 posted on 01/23/2008 1:26:21 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: chaos_5
The Democrats need to form a Communist Party and a Socialist Party!

?Where HAVE you been for the past 30 years. What do you think the so-called Democrat Party now is?

They have spent the past 30 years, deliberately and with instructions, infiltrated and taken over the party.

The last true democrat walking out the door was Zell - and the last semi-democrat was Lieberman -

Those now in charge of the party are card carrying Socialists = reality.

62 posted on 01/23/2008 1:26:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: gbscott1954
I don't care what party you try to create, if they want to be viable and they want to ge their reps elected, they will end up right where the pubs and dems are right now.

Politics is politics and if you think you can rewrite the rules in your favor you're better off working for the tinfoil crowd and leave the real work to the adults.

I don't like it any better than you do but thems the facts.

63 posted on 01/23/2008 1:26:31 PM PST by Bob J ("For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one is striking at it's root.")
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To: rface
YES!!!

That guy with the beard.

I see White House in his future.

64 posted on 01/23/2008 1:27:45 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: theDentist

*see post #36


65 posted on 01/23/2008 1:28:17 PM PST by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: gbscott1954; martin_fierro; Tijeras_Slim; CholeraJoe; pax_et_bonum; TheMom
I was sitting here thinking something that I have thought before several times in recent months.

I was sitting here just before going to bed, lamenting the fact that one of my socks got wet today because I stepped into too deep a puddle. See, it's been raining like a son of a gun all day.

I wonder if they make "rain socks?"

I'll have to check into that tomorrow.

66 posted on 01/23/2008 1:28:28 PM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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To: Centurion2000; rintense; rface; gbscott1954

ANOTHER PARTY = HITLERY WINS = ginsburg-like judges


67 posted on 01/23/2008 1:29:00 PM PST by a77 (McCain for President)
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To: gbscott1954
Absolutely not. Where are you going to get the bodies? Manufacture them out of thin air? It will be the exact same people as those now in the Republican party. The only thing that would change is the name but I guess that would make some people feel better.

If the Republican party is not conservative enough, then we need to convince them to be more conservative.

68 posted on 01/23/2008 1:29:16 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: gbscott1954
Maybe we should just sit down and shut up and embrace change. Consensus, moderation, compromise, and above all compassion and tolerance. How could it hurt?

Listen to the MSM and listen to our leaders and they will take care of us. They will take care of us, once and for all.

69 posted on 01/23/2008 1:29:18 PM PST by isrul
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To: gbscott1954

yeah! we need another conservative party for liberals to slowly take over. we’ll just splinter into pieces and evaporate completely.


70 posted on 01/23/2008 1:29:50 PM PST by ari-freedom (The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government)
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To: Rome2000

Sure, post your platform in bullet form, then see who agrees. After doing that you’ll see that purity = marginalization.

The Libertarians have a very precise definition of their party. And get 1% of the vote.

Learn to live with compromise.. that’s what you neeed to win.


71 posted on 01/23/2008 1:30:05 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: chaos_5
I understand the frustration when the Republicans start shifting left and acting like liberals. That is why we must pull the party right, not bust it up!

Thank you for speaking wisdom.

72 posted on 01/23/2008 1:30:51 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Allegra

Hooooooo Baby!

73 posted on 01/23/2008 1:30:54 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Bear_Slayer
I was gonna create the Procrastinator’s Party

Anyone who got around to joining would have to be disqualified.

74 posted on 01/23/2008 1:31:23 PM PST by OSHA (The Procrastinators Club is full of poseurs and frauds. Think about it.)
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To: Bear_Slayer; theDentist
Ribs, gin, Guinness....this sounds like fun.

What shall I bring?

75 posted on 01/23/2008 1:31:35 PM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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To: gbscott1954

The decline of the Republican party is just a symptom of a broader cultural decline. You can fight it, but the very act of fighting it prevents one from seeing the humor in the slow-motion collapse of the West. And keep in mind that after every decline and fall, there is a renewal...

Shiva
Robinson Jeffers

There is a hawk that is picking the birds out of our sky,
She killed the pigeons of peace and security,
She has taken honesty and confidence from nations and men,
She is hunting the lonely heron of liberty.
She loads the arts with nonsense, she is very cunning
Science with dreams and the state with powers to catch them at last.
Nothing will escape her at last, flying nor running.
This is the hawk that picks out the star’s eyes.
This is the only hunter that will ever catch the wild swan;
The prey she will take last is the wild white swan of the beauty of things.
Then she will be alone, pure destruction, achieved and supreme,
Empty darkness under the death-tent wings.
She will build a nest of the swan’s bones and hatch a new brood,
Hang new heavens with new birds, all be renewed.


76 posted on 01/23/2008 1:32:24 PM PST by oblomov
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To: gbscott1954
There's some debate about whether the GOP really began as a third party. The Whigs had broken up and the "Opposition" which included Whigs and many who became Republicans actually became the largest party in the 1854 elections.

But pedantry aside, there's a built in bias in US politics towards a two party system. If it prevailed a third party would just step into the shoes of one of the major parties. It wouldn't change much over time (unless some radically new issue comes up).

Best to stick around with the Republicans and pick up the pieces if things go wrong.

77 posted on 01/23/2008 1:32:45 PM PST by x
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To: gbscott1954

Fishing & Hunting & Boating Party, but that’s all.


78 posted on 01/23/2008 1:32:49 PM PST by Gator113 (My short list..Fred, Romney.)
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To: woollyone
The John Galt Party.

Who IS John Galt?

I'd rather just move to Galt's Gulch and wait for the rest to commit hari kari without the movers of the country

79 posted on 01/23/2008 1:32:59 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Oh! RAIN SOCKS!! You've solved my problem!

I can sleep peacefully now. Thank you!!

80 posted on 01/23/2008 1:33:20 PM PST by Allegra (It'll be a cold day in Hell when it snows in Baghdad.)
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