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WWFD - What Will Fred Do?
RedState.com ^ | January 20, 2008 | Josh Painter

Posted on 01/20/2008 1:08:35 PM PST by Josh Painter

What will Fred do? That's the big question around the Fredosphere on this day following the South Carolina GOP primary.

Many are calling for him to stay in the race. After all, Fred's third place finish beat out Mitt Romney, who had invested considerable time and millions of dollars in SC. Rudy's not getting out, and Fred has finished higher than America's Mayor in five of the six primaries that Republicans have contested so far.

Some have even mapped out strategies for him - skip Florida and concentrate on the Southern states that will figure so prominently in Super Tuesday. Hold out for a brokered convention.

Still others are saying that as the only conservative left in the race, Thompson must stay in to represent conservative principles. Pardon my skepticism, but the Republican Party doesn't seem to be concerned much with conservative principles this election cycle.

In fact, the Republican party has been consistently giving moderates the gold mine and conservatives the shaft ever since the day Ronald Reagan packed his bags and left the White House to return to his beloved California ranch.

Im my opinion, the GOP has turned its back on conservatives too many times, and now it's time for conservatives to turn their backs to it. This was done on a relatively small scale in 2006, and the Democrats took both houses of Congress away from the Republicans. That was a warning shot fired across the bow of the U.S.S. RNC, and it went largely unheeded. Perhaps they need a less subtle message.

I don't know if conservatives will ever be able to regain control of the Republican party again without it having to be taken apart and put back together, but I somewhat doubt it. Maybe with the Clintons back in the White House the Grand Old Party will learn once again to embrace the conservative principles which made it a winner in the Reagan years - maybe not.

Some would like to see Sen. Thompson remain in the race to keep Mike Huckabee from getting the nomination. Although Fred has performed a valuable service to his country by pointing out that The Huckster isn't exactly what he appears to be, now the race is moving on to more states where the other guy from Hope can't depend on identity politics to keep pulling in big vote totals.

So, what will Fred thompson do? The only thing we can be sure of right now is that he will do what he thinks is right. He cannot carry the conservative burden for a party that won't even give him water. He didn't get in the race to stop any one particular rival candidate. Sen. Thompson got in the race because he was concerned about the kind of country that his children and grandchildren would have to grow up in. He was concerned that none of the GOP canidates were talking about federalism or entitlements or some of the other issues that were on his mind.

But things have changed. The other Republican candidates have adopted many of Fred's issues and made them part of their own campaigns. This is a good thing if they do more than just pay lip service to these issues and the first principles which are their foundation. I'm certain that one thing that is weighing heavily on Fred's decision is just how much can he depend on these big-government Republicans to hold true to Fred's own principles after which one of them is given the nomination. Perhaps his friend John McCain can convince him. Perhaps even Mitt Romney, who doesn't have a history of being consistent on the issues, can persuade FDT that he has seen the light and will faithfully be guided by it. It's up to them to make the sale to Fred.

Whatever Fred decides to do, I'm supporting him. If he stays in, I'll continue to blog for him, defend him and talk him up. If he decides to return to the good life, surrounded by the family he so adores, how could I blame him? He worked hard for that good life, and the Lord knows he deserves to be able to enjoy it. He certainly received shabby treatment from the party that he's tried so hard to save from itself.

So I don't know what Fred will do. But I do know what I will do. I'm a conservative, not a Republican. I gave that particular political party up when it took a sharp left turn and left me behind in 2006. So I'll go to the polls, vote in the GOP primary (my state allows it) and in the general election, and if his name isn't on the ballot either time, I'll write it in for president. I'll also write in Duncan Hunter's name for vice president for good measure. Then I'll sleep well that night knowing that I voted my convictions.

- JP


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: fl2008; fred; fredthompson; gop; primaries; sc2008
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To: Josh Painter
But I do know what I will do. I'm a conservative, not a Republican.

Here, here....! Bully!

21 posted on 01/20/2008 1:24:33 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: Cinnamon

I dont see HRC wanting him on the ticket. He would be a bigger star than her thighness.
She will pick some limpd**k who she can control and wont upstage her, like the one she married.


22 posted on 01/20/2008 1:25:47 PM PST by Yorlik803 ( The Democrats are a stench in the nostrals of honest citizens.)
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To: ari-freedom

Disagree. Huck, Romney and Thompson share voters. Therefore McCain the beneficary.


23 posted on 01/20/2008 1:26:44 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: seekthetruth

When the going gets tough...the tough get going.

I will fight kicking and screaming all the way to the general election. Its time conservatives all across the country stopped saying oh ok..he will do. I will NEVER vote for Huck or McCain.
If that gives us Hillary so be it. It wasn’t me that voted him as the candidate. So those of you who are so willing to be led to the liberal candidates ..go for it.


24 posted on 01/20/2008 1:27:05 PM PST by donnab (don't blame me ...I support Fred.)
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To: Josh Painter

Would he have a shot at VP?


25 posted on 01/20/2008 1:27:26 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

Using your logic, the longer Romney stays in, the more states McCain is going to win.


26 posted on 01/20/2008 1:28:00 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Josh Painter

Fred will do what Fred will do.
But. I think he will stay through Super Tuesday. Where a number of states have the opportunity to baffle the MSM.
I think this:
(1) McCain can’t rally the base. He will sink on Super Tuesday.
(2) Huckleberry Hound will deflate. The hillbilly fundamentalist moron vote is not deep.
(3) Romney, like Kerry, can buy the nomination. That may happen.
(4) Julie Crossdresser is going no where after Florida.
(5) Thompson, if he stays in, will have a shot. Ultimately, if Romney doesn’t get enough delegates, will have to deal with Fred. They will cut out both the Huckster and Julie Crossdresser.


27 posted on 01/20/2008 1:28:27 PM PST by dark_lord (DemonRat Political Platform: (1) Death to America (2) Up with Treason)
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To: Rational Thought
Using your logic, the longer Romney stays in, the more states McCain is going to win.

Not true. Romney is the front runner. Thompson, who himself drew line in the sand in SC, has none.

28 posted on 01/20/2008 1:29:16 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: KeyLargo

Probably, but Fred’s not interested. IMO, he would turn it down.


29 posted on 01/20/2008 1:29:19 PM PST by Josh Painter (First, the GOP became a big tent. As a result, it became Democrat Lite.)
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To: Yaelle
Campaigning Lite isn't enough to keep Romney or McCain from getting enough delegates to get a majority of the total.
30 posted on 01/20/2008 1:30:24 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Sorry Fred. Really wanted you to win but now its time to get out. The longer you stay in and split votes with Huck and Romney, the more states McCain is going to win.

You forgot about Lincoln didn't you?

None of the candidates you mentioned, except Fred, are worth my vote!

If I have to, I will write his name in. I will not throw away my vote on candidates that either :

a.) Do no represent my conservative values
b.) Cannot win against the Dem candidate because they turn-off the base.
31 posted on 01/20/2008 1:31:44 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Yorlik803

....Otherwise we will end up with either a Muslim or a Dyke in 08...

The Shrilda will put Osama Barama on the ticket so we’ll end up with both.


32 posted on 01/20/2008 1:32:08 PM PST by GunsareOK
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Disagree. Huck, Romney and Thompson share voters. Therefore McCain the beneficary.

The same can be said for any of them at the expense of the other....so why not Huck and Romney get out to clear the path for Fred? Fred would take out McCain easily...more easily than Huck and Romney both of whom have circumspect conservative creds.

33 posted on 01/20/2008 1:32:30 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Not true. Romney is the front runner. Thompson, who himself drew line in the sand in SC, has none.

Mitt has negativity ratings of 50%.

He cannot win in the general, no matter how much of his money he throws at it!
34 posted on 01/20/2008 1:32:42 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
"Disagree. Huck, Romney and Thompson share voters. Therefore McCain the beneficary."

Exactly. Unless Fred is wiling to attack McCain more vigorously than he went after Huck he needs to get out. Fred only speaks against McCain if he is asked a direct question and even then he reminds the questioner that they are friends. If Fred really wants the job he needs to put his loyalty to conservative principles over his friendship to McCain.

35 posted on 01/20/2008 1:33:53 PM PST by blaquebyrd
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To: Ethrane

And mega dittos!


36 posted on 01/20/2008 1:34:04 PM PST by GunsareOK
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To: Yaelle
"In 1860 the candidate chosen to be the nominee at the Republican convention was fourth in delegates and only won one state (his home state)… He won at the convention because he was the only candidate that was acceptable to all the wings of the party. This candidate later became President… his name was Abe Lincoln. A case can be made that only Fred Thompson is acceptable to all wings of the party..."

1. Realizing of course that Lincoln was just about the ultimate 'big government' candidate and president.

2. That said, I agree that Fred is the only republican in the running that all factions could vote for...otherwise the party is destined for minority status in just about a year.

3. That said, today's pubby party wouldn't give Fred the nod short of a general uprising at grass roots, and that ain't gonna happen.

37 posted on 01/20/2008 1:34:11 PM PST by norton (deep down inside you know that Fred is your second choice - and there isn't a third choice)
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To: Josh Painter

He should most definitely stay in the race. Remember, Florida is the first state that is a closed primary. Up until now, we’ve had all open primaries, meaning that the spineless moderates could vote for whom they choose.

That all starts to change with Florida, and on Super Tuesday, a number of states in the voting block have closed primaries. All the more reason he should stay in. A third place finish in South Carolina was not a defeat. Remember, they originally had him coming in fourth, including in exit polling until the end.


38 posted on 01/20/2008 1:36:01 PM PST by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a conservative and Rush Limbaugh knows it.)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
The MSM is calling McCain the front runner. So far, Romney has won Nevada(uncontested...sorry, Ron Paul), Michigan (arguably his home state) and Montana (uncontested). Dumped a bazillion dollars into Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, and didn’t win.
39 posted on 01/20/2008 1:38:41 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: norton
3. That said, today's pubby party wouldn't give Fred the nod short of a general uprising at grass roots, and that ain't gonna happen.

You'd be surprised....IMO, it's already started.

Ask the RNC how contributions are running these days....the conservatives are the people with deep enough political beliefs to make reaching deep into their pocket for meaningful contributions palatable. Do you really think all these 'Pubbie moderates are that committed? Or are they just looking for a passing ship in the night?

The RNC either knows that they are in trouble or are just plain ignorant.

40 posted on 01/20/2008 1:39:17 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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