Posted on 01/19/2008 6:18:39 PM PST by Aristotelian
Sen. John McCain won Saturday's South Carolina Republican presidential primary, AP projects.
Fox News and NBC News exit polls ranked the economy as the top concern among South Carolina primary voters, followed by illegal immigration, the war in Iraq, and terrorism.
Columnist and Weekly Standard Editor William Kristol commenting on Saturday's results on the Fox News Channel said that the Republican field is now winnowing down to just three viable candidates: McCain, Mitt Romney, and Rudy Giuliani.
So who are you going to support once Fred quits? Romney? He won’t win against the Clinton machine.
No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.
With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.
Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.
Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?
How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.
Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook
McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.
McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.
Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!
McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.
Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.
At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.
And your screen name sums up my feeling about that ----GRRRRRRRRRR
Florida is a 3-way tie between Rudy, Romney, and McCain. McCain will probably get a slight boost and take the lead there now.
Huckabee will fall some, and Thompson will lose all support in Florida. Where those votes go will be key.
I am slowly coming to grips with this... just plain sad.
“Endorse Rudy or McCain will be unstopable”
Rudy has hardly any chance left.
It’s between John and Mitt, with a bare glimmer of a chance for Fred if the convention deadlocks. If anyone chooses Hucklesleaze for VP they deserve what they will get.
The fact McCain was on touring the state with Lyndsay Graham is simply baffling. I had hoped the people of SC would rise up against both of these IA coddling turds.
My vote for him would depend on his choice for VP, since I believe McCain's VP stands a good chance of being just one breath away from the Presidency .
If it's Huckabee, I stay home.
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We can’t expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.” - Nikita Khrushchev
South Carolina already officially ended Hunter’s run, and unofficially has taken Thompson as well. 3rd place by some 18-20 points isn’t even close. He hasn’t campaigned heavily in Florida and would be assured a loss even if he did to Giuliani, McCain, and probably Romney as well. If Thompson doesn’t withdraw before Super Tuesday, he will on Drop-out Wednesday.
Both the real conservatives are out.
Fred will withdraw.
He’ll endorse McCain.
And most of Fred’s vote — primarily southern pro-lifers — will go to Huckabee.
I see the Republican Party is choosing to elect Hillary president.
There’s a 0.0% chance McCain can beat Clinton.
Oh well.
Maybe in 2016.
An a tired out 25 year establishment DC politican with a war record will win against the Clintons? Ever heard of a guy named Bob Dole? Romny’s got a heck of a better shot then a political hack like McCain.
You McCainiancs got to stop reading polls 10 months in advance of a national election to determine who to vote for. 10 months ago Rudy G was the only guy who could beat the Clintons. Where is he now?
No Conservative should ever consider voting for McCain. We worry the others will betray us. We know McCain will betray us. Look at his record for the last 8 years? Been nothing but betrayal and obstruction.
With any of the other canidates we have a seat at the table. We know John McCain will never listen to us on anything.
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled “Conservative” Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.
Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain’s record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.
Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?
How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.
Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook
McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.
McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.
Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!
McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.
Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is “strong on Foreign Policy”? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.
At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.
It is time for the folks on Conservative talk radio to get off their butts and endorse somebody (other than McCain and Huckleberry).
McCain may not be the top conservative choice but he is far better than any Democrat out there. He is strongly pro-life and was for a surge in Iraq way before the President even was. He staked his candidacy on it.
Some of the Freepers are helping out the msm my supporting the msm’s venom on this site.
Everyone save the "then you'll elect Hillary" crap please.
Fine. She gets elected. And the GOP gets the message that their RINOS are unacceptable candidates.
I've come to the conclusion that they probably don't pay close attention to all the issues, like the Mexican border, etc.
I almost feel the way you do.
I’ll be swallowing hard if it’s McCain and downright embarrassed if it’s Huckabee.
If we have to have a RINO, I prefer McCain.
Bush was stopped in amnesty and McCain can be stopped too.
He does need a real conservative should he win the nomination.
May I suggest Thune?
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