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OFFICIAL SOUTH CAROLINA PRIMARY THREAD

Posted on 01/19/2008 6:06:01 AM PST by vikingd00d

Today is the day.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2008; fred; frednumberone; fredthompson; gofredgo; gop; nothuckabubba; notmccain; notmitt; primary; sc2008; southcarolina; thompson
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To: not2worry

I’m a very serious Fredhead but a McCain/Thompson ticket would erode alot of the good I see in Thompson. I would lose a tremendous amount of respect for the man.


161 posted on 01/19/2008 7:56:28 AM PST by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Spiff

I would love to see this race come down to Mitt and Fred as the last two men standing. Then we would get a real and substantive debate on the issues, and may the best man win (and the other run as VP).


162 posted on 01/19/2008 7:56:38 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (FRederalist)
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To: Ulysse
But would a ticket THOMSON/HUCKABEE be possible?

No. I can guarantee that neither man would work with each other. Thompson doesn't respect Huckabee. And Huckabee hates Thompson for his "attacks" on Huck's record and gaffes.

163 posted on 01/19/2008 7:57:09 AM PST by the808bass
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To: Timeout
I agree. As a FredHead, I really pulled for him to move up in the polls. But it just doesn’t seem to be working. (Yes, I know, one big reason is skeptical voters like me).

If I were voting in SC, I think I would have to conclude Fred will be gone next week...drink some Maalox...and vote for Huck. We can deal with Huck later.

Yup - another Freeper with real convictions! /sarcasm

The polls say that the guy you most identify with is losing so you don't want to be identified with a loser so you'll vote for who the polls say is winning so that you can be on the winning team no matter what. That shows real courage of your convictions - NOT.

Maybe if all of you that say you are FredHeads actually vote for him - Fred will win!

164 posted on 01/19/2008 7:57:14 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Babsig

Same question to you. How does Huck get himself known and Thompson doesn’t? Is it thru the MSM or thru the churches, or what?


165 posted on 01/19/2008 7:57:28 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: Captain Culpepper
South Carolina:

From a New Jersey conservative in a barren political landscape.

Please do the right thing today.

Fred Thompson ‘08.

From a New York Conservative in a barren political landscape: DITTO!!! :)

Fred Thompson '08!!!!

166 posted on 01/19/2008 7:58:24 AM PST by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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To: pgkdan

I’m not out of my “friggin’ mind”.

Nor do I think you are for keeping hope alive.

I’ve said elsewhere on this thread that I hope the weather delivers the “Fred Miracle”. But even you must realize it doesn’t seem likely. I’m simply looking at the lay of the land beyond SC. If Fred’s out, a Huck victory today bodes better for us than if McCain wins. Huck will be easier to pick off later.


167 posted on 01/19/2008 7:59:15 AM PST by Timeout (I hate MediaCrats! ......and trial lawyers.)
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To: diverteach

Joining you in prayer!


168 posted on 01/19/2008 7:59:20 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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Poll manager Gary Gardner, right, a retired member of the U.S. Navy, helps Steve Denniston, a member of the Goose Creek Rural Fire Department, prepare to cast his vote in the South Carolina Republican presidential primary at Goose Creek High School in Goose Creek, S.C., Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008. (AP Photo/Alice Keeney)
169 posted on 01/19/2008 8:00:06 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: Timeout
If I were voting in SC, I think I would have to conclude Fred will be gone next week...drink some Maalox...and vote for Huck. We can deal with Huck later.

This has got to be the nuttiest "logic" I have read all week.

Let me pose a question: Do you WANT Thompson gone next week?

If you were to vote in South Carolina (I'm glad you're not) wouldn't you rather deal with Huck NOW?

I'm going to leave this alone now, because I know I'll never figure it out.

170 posted on 01/19/2008 8:00:13 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Timeout

You may be right. Hopefully Thompson will come in second. With McCain out Thompson can demolish Huck.


171 posted on 01/19/2008 8:00:13 AM PST by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy.)
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To: mcjordansc

Never thought I’d say it, but I don’t think I could vote for Huckster - ever. Even if it increased the chances of a disastrous Dem victory. I have come to loathe him with every fiber in me. When his lying mug shows up on TV, I change the channel faster than if was the Beast herself.


172 posted on 01/19/2008 8:02:08 AM PST by Pittsburgher (Fred: the elephant in the room)
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To: Free Vulcan
Is it thru the MSM or thru the churches, or what?

Both. And push polling. Never underestimate 1 million phone calls telling lies and spreading half-truths. I'm waiting for January 31st when the candidates have to file their FEC reports for 2007. I'll be surveying Huck's to see what we can see.

173 posted on 01/19/2008 8:02:09 AM PST by the808bass
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To: TornadoAlley3

When I see that photo my mind always adds the following audio.

SURPRISE, SURPRISE. A better Gomer couldn’t be found if you tried. He’sready for Hollywood.


174 posted on 01/19/2008 8:04:14 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (We have become an oligarchy not a Republic.)
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To: the808bass

I just turned into MSNBC and as usual they are pulling for Huck; however, they are really down playing his chances now. Talking about the weather and the Huck’s lack of an infrastructure in the state. Interesting. Perhaps I’m reading too much into the comments — considering it David the liar and Mika the idiot who are behind the “anchor” desk right now.


175 posted on 01/19/2008 8:04:24 AM PST by Laverne
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To: mcjordansc
With McCain Conservatives would get maybe 10%. That would not be worth the enormous long term damage McCain would do to both the GOP and the Conservative Movement. With a McCain Administration we would have a mislabeled "Conservative" Administration pushing Democrat Party polices while the GOP took all the political fall out of the consequences of those disastrous decisions.

Just what could Conservatives expect to get from a McCain Administration? Based on McCain's record for the last 8 years, we could expect to get tough talk on foreign policy and spending with no real action on any issue.

Do people forget the Democrats trying to get McCain to flip party’s in Jan 2006? Forget that Dems wanted McCain as their VP candidate in 2004?

How quickly the supposed Conservatives for McCain forget McCain’s political record. From Tax-cuts to the War to Judges McCain’s whole strategy has been to be as Liberal as possible and stay in the GOP.

Politically there is very little difference between Hillary and McCain. You get minor variations on this and that issue, like abortion, but over all McCain and Clinton share the same political philosophical outlook

McCain has done nothing for the Conservative movement in 8 years. While talking a good game on spending, he has done nothing. This is particularly galling considering all the issues CFR, Judges, Immigration Anti Torture Amendment-Gang of 14 etc etc etc issues which McCain was more then willing to throw his weight behind an issues to get legislation passed.

McCain has actively worked against the Conservatives on Social issues, on the WOT, on Iraq, on Gitmo, against Rummy, on Immigration and on Judges, on Global Warming etc etc etc etc etc. McCain has far more in common with Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama then he does with any Conservative.

Funny how the Talking Heads miss this. Out of 49 Republican Senators McCain has been ranked 45th by the American Conservative Union for his voting record!

McCain would be the worse of both worlds. A mislabeled “Conservative” Administration actively advancing the Democrat Party’s agenda while knifing Conservatives in the back daily. You could even count on a McCain Administration appointing Leftist Judges in order to avoid fighting with the Democrats in the US Senate.

Tough on Foreign Policy? You think Mr “Close Gitmo and extend the same legal protections US Citizens have to the terrorists” McCain is going to have a “tough” foreign policy? The father of the Baker Commission and the plan to surrender Iraq to Iran and Syria is "strong on Foreign Policy"? Not based on his recored. The wrost thing that a McCain Administration would do is it would fracture the few remaining GOP Congress critters into pro and anti McCain factions. McCain would be the worst of all world politically for the Conservatives.

At least with a Democrat Leftist Administration, as opposed to a McCain Leftist with a GOP Label Administration, the Democrats would get all the political fall out of their disastrous political decisions and the GOP would unite in fighting them. The worst of all possible worlds for Conservatives in 2008 would be McCain getting elected President.

176 posted on 01/19/2008 8:05:27 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Instead of "Swift Boaters", 2008 Democrats have "Short Bussers"-Freeper Sax)
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Republican presidential hopeful former Sen. Fred Thompson, R-Tenn. looks over the menu with his daughter Hayden, 4, during a campaign stop at Tommy's Country Ham House to visit the supporters and eat breakfast with his family Saturday, Jan. 19, 2008, in Greenville, S.C. (AP Photo/Mary Ann Chastain)
177 posted on 01/19/2008 8:05:33 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( UNITED BY OUR CORE BELIEFS Fred08)
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To: Agent Smith

Apparently, tens of thousands of SC voters are so misinformed that they think McPain is the one to “solve” the illegal immigrant mess.


178 posted on 01/19/2008 8:06:17 AM PST by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: georgiagirl_pam

>>Is it a winner take all or do they divide the delegates?

3 delegates for each winner of a congressional district, and the rest (29 delegates) go to the overall winner


179 posted on 01/19/2008 8:07:47 AM PST by vikingd00d
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To: Free Vulcan
How does Huck get himself known and Thompson doesn’t? Is it thru the MSM or thru the churches, or what?

Huck pledged to support a Human Life Amendment. Fred is pro-life, opposes Roe v. Wade, but he didn't suck up to Dobson and pledge to a HLA as the best way to go. Thus the single-issue, mind-numbed Dobson robots dutifully back Huck.

I'm very pro-life, but I also want a man who is conservative on other issues as well.

180 posted on 01/19/2008 8:08:17 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (FRederalist)
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