Constitution Party Courts Ron Paul as Candidate

Old Glory Radio ^ | 01/16/08 | Old Glory Media

[locke22]

EUREKA Ca: 01/167/08 Old Glory Media - Mary Starrett, Communications Director of the Constitution Party, announced today, in conjunction with her radio interview with Old Glory Radio 16 Jan 08, that the Constitution Party has drafted a resolution encouraging current Republican Presidential Candidate Ron Paul to run as the Constitution Party candidate for President in the 2008 Election.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

FDT is a member of the CFR.

I know he is, but if he's the nominee, I'd rather have him than Hillary and keep fighting for change within the GOP. I'd vote for him but I wouldn't do any of the canvassing or donating. I'll just go to the voting booth and simply vote.

[publiusF27]

Anti-war in the context of modern reasoning for war is not leftist. Anti-United Nations-mandated wars is not leftist. Anti-”wars-to-end-all-wars” is not leftist. Anti-”nation-building” wars is not leftist. Anti-”perpetual-war-for-perpetual-peace” wars. Anti-wars where the press gets planning briefings is not leftist.

I agree with all of the above, except in part with the last. Propaganda is an important part of war. It's not always nice and clean, but neither is killing people.

[Jokelahoma]

And they're not in the best of shape either, hence the fact Fred is relying almost completely on a good showing in SC, and Rudy has put all his eggs in the Florida basket.

The comparison is weak at best. It's like going out in the first round of a spelling bee, yet telling everyone how great you did because a whole lot of other people went out in the first round as well.

[DugwayDuke]

“Meanwhile they maintain their links to the racist fringe via their alliance with The League Of The South.”

Google This “League The South Rockwell” and see the number of hits that search generates on the relationship between Lew Rockwell and the League of the South. For example, Lew Rockwell is also a founder of The League of the South.

Then check out this thread on Ron Paul’s racist newsletter and Lew Rockwell.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1954572/posts

(Who Wrote Ron Paul’s Newsletters? (Throw Rockwell Under the Bus Time))

There is a possible outline here. RP runs as a republican to generate big bucks then switches to the Constitution Party. Be sure and read the link at the thread provided on Ron Paul’s political strategies.

FYI, Lew Rockwell is a huge supporter of Ron Paul and, btw, Cindy Shehan’s latest flame.

[dcwusmc]

Wouldn’t that be primarily because today’s GOP has totally left its small government, low-tax-and-spend, minimal regulation roots in favor of big-government “conservatism,” perpetual nation-building wars, the biggest increase in spending and borrowing ever? It’s no wonder Dr. Paul isn’t wanted by today’s GOP. He shames them by his very existence.

[dcwusmc]

Why would non-intervention in the internal affairs of another country be a problem? Please be specific.

[johnthebaptistmoore]

If it truly causes harm to the U.S., then it’s a major problem. There are a finite number of examples where non-intervention by the U.S. in the internal affairs of certain “politically unstable” countries would be a problem (Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela, etc.), and it would take too long to explain it all. The whole idea of the entire War on Terror is to truly prevent any more “9/11’s” from ever happening again on U.S. soil as well as help deter terrorist acts against any Western Civilized country. The continued existence of U.S. military bases all over the world also helps to deter the worse cases of violence from actually happening all over the world. Still, the debate between whether or not all of these U.S. military bases should exist all over the world will continue for as long as the U.S. truly remains a superpower nation (including the debate over whether or not this is a waste of U.S. money, weapons, and people as well as the usefulness or lack of usefulness of the United Nations as a “world entity”).

[County Agent Hank Kimball]

The Constitution Party is a joke.

Ron Paul is a wacko.

But if Huckster gets the nomination, I’d vote for Ron Paul over him.

For real. That guy is Bill Clinton without the integrity. Teddy Kennedy without the respect for capitalism. And Michael Vick’s dad without atheletic genes.

Hank

[raygun]

C'mon. You just perceive things as being either black and white, when in reality things are merely shades of gray. Look: The Great Society would've succeeded beyond wildest dreams if but for some ne'erdowells that sullied the party with their negative waves. Not enough people were chorusing Imagine by John Lennon. Get with the program for crying out loud.

/sarcasm-off

Did I really need to post that end-tag there?

Sometimes people that take themselves overly serious shouldn't be taken the least bit serious.

I'm a realist. That is I've conceded long ago that I live in a world where pragmatism and practicality are conjoined.

While I agree wholeheartedly and most enthusiastically with the general principles of common to the U.S. Constitution or American Hertiage Parties, I also recognize pie-in-the-sky Utopian idealism when I see it. Idealism is great, and everybody should have ideals, except when they're not practical, nor pragmatic in the world as we know it; then its just starry-eyed dreams/delusions that perhaps should be best bequeathed unto the exclusive purvue of one's religion.

One thing I'm certain of is that a Christian Theocracy would've been a anathema to almost all of the Founders.

[raygun]

First off, the concept of "asylum" for non-Christians is NOT my position. I agree that concept is rather bizarre. Christian's of various beliefs came to this country to escape persecution from the prevailing religious authority in the land they emmigrated from.

Your assertation that the CP is wrong in its position that the nation is founded upon specifically the Gospels of Christ is without any evidence whatsoever. Make an assertion and I'll be willing to enterain it (or refute it as I may be entertained to do).

I'm baffled how you can make such assertation when the proponderance of citations make mention to Christianity. If but for the Gospel, then what is Christiantiy.

With respect to that part concerning the issue of what Christian concepts appear or not in the Constitution, perhaps you overlooked some of the references that I cited. Nevertheless, and the foregoing notwithstanding, I have no desire to debate the matter with you.

I am getting on in years these days (as oppossed to previous days), and the rememberer isn't workin' as well as it did the days before these. Did you and I encounter ourselves in a "discussion" pertainant to issues of jurisprudent stare decisis?

[bcsco]

so why wouldn't Dr. Paul be comfortable with an endorsement from a Muslim paper?

He'd simply say that he has no control over who supports him or their ideologies. He certainly wouldn't return their donations.

[locke22]

HANGING WITH THE RON PAUL GUYS

I attended a local group meeting of the Ron Paul group here last night. I wanted to see what when on.

I was struck at how normal they were. Basically just old time Republicans, blue collar Democrats, fed up with the direction the party is going. It was very similar to a standard county Republican meeting, agenda the whole bit.

Natually the meeting focused on our California primary in a couple of weeks and how to get out information, change voters minds…..ads in newspapers, the usual stuff. Very well run and organized…..until

In walks the stoners from the local Humboldt State college, a Berkeley wanna-be little college of no great distinction, who proceeded to try and take over the meeting calling Republicans who haven’t switched over to Ron Paul NAZIS because they didn’t want to repeal all the drug laws and empty the prisons. Did I mention they were with NORMAL? Nuff said.

Well, being who I am I stood up and pretty much shamed them out of the room and was fairly disappointed they didn’t have the guts to meet me outside.

Here is the problem with the RP groups. My first hand observation is leftist morons are gloming onto him to further whacky left wing causes in the hopes they can split the party and throw the election to the Dems.

For this reason, until the RP organization throws these bums out, the movement is dead as a serious movement. When some members of their groups look at Republicans as NAZIS, the leadership has to throw them out.. Or doesn’t hate speech the left loves to tout so much apply to liberals?

Republicans are a lot of things, but they don’t gas people and make wallets out of their skin. I have the greatest respect for the good Republicans who are trying to make a difference and stand up for traditional Republican values, but you are guilty by association. To allow idiots to force their way onto your meeting agenda, it just looks high school. Government high school at that.

My advise to the Constitution Party, you have a golden opportunity...don’t blow it.

[John Leland 1789]

“I agree with all of the above, except in part with the last. Propaganda is an important part of war. It’s not always nice and clean, but neither is killing people.”

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Of course, you are right about the use of propaganda in warfare. But did we use the media for that purpose, or in 2001 and to the present, have we just been blabbing to our enemies, alowing them to evade our operations against them?

In our past legitimate (those before 1950) wars we had a much more patriotic news media. Now, although we do have some patriotic journalists, in general it’s just a leftist media circus. Liberals and/or leftists make up the White House Press Corp, don’t they?

[Big Red Clay]

Damn. The Constitution Party candidate was gonna get my protest vote if Huckaboob or McCrazy get the Repub nomination. (before you scold me, I live in Nebraska which means the Electoral College votes will go to the Repubs so it would be purely a meaningless protest vote. The rest of my ticket will be all R’s) I could not even cast a protest vote for the Ron-ulan however. I guess I will have to check out the Libertarian guy if they put Paul on their ticket.

[kidd]

Awww man, and I was considering them as a fallback position should the GOP nominate someone completely unacceptable. There goes that.

I know how you feel.

[mainerforglobalwarming]

I think Paul hurts hillary more than the gop as well. He’s the cut and run candidate, plain and simple. He wants to let the Islamic Facists rule the world. The were in Iraq before we invaded, hundreds were in Ansar Al Islam. saddam as we’ve learned had WMD’s and was in position to restart his nuke program. Was allied with Al-qaeda. Had a non-agression pact with them. Gave them aid and mediacal treatment.Yet Ron Paul thinks Iraq was no threat to us. And today our victory in Iraq is crushing al-qeada’s influnce in the Muslim world. So run paul run. You’re just what the left-wing idiots need. A fool to rally around.

[CommerceComet]

If he tries for it, I think a TRUE CONSERVATIVE with credentials should challenge him for that Constitution Party nomination, I am sure he or she could take care of Paul in no time flat, if organized and name-brand, with experience and a national following. Some names come to mind.

I think that this election could be a golden opportunity for the Constitution Party or another conservative third-party to get a foundation built. If the Republicans nominate Giuliani or Romney, there will be a large number of disillusioned Republicans who might look at a third party. Giuliani could alienate many pro-lifers who might give up on the Republican Party for good. Romney's Mormonism is going to be a tough sale among the evangelicals, his conversion on abortion is not trusted by pro-lifers, and his Hillary-like health care plan is not going to be popular with conservatives.

To possibly capitalize on this, the CP is going to have to come up with a reasonable candidate, not a nut-job like Ron Paul. I'd be interested in hearing the names you're thinking but the first one that popped into my mind was Rick Santorium.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Any particular reason you leave out Huckabee and McCain also being disasters for the GOP and for Conservatism if either of THOSE two would get the Repub nomination, too?

[CommerceComet]

Any particular reason you leave out Huckabee and McCain also being disasters for the GOP and for Conservatism if either of THOSE two would get the Repub nomination, too?

Huckabee wouldn't be offensive to the evangelicals who would likely make up a lot of the possible defections to the CP. Huckabee's economic politics might not be completely to conservatives' liking but his pro-life credentials are unquestioned. McCain, likewise, has been a reasonably good ally in most social issues. I don't sense the hardcore animosity toward either of these two among the evangelicals that is seen for Giuliani or Romney.

[locke22]

thats the problem, two tick off the religious base and the other two are open border loons. I don’t see any way the party will come together with any of these four and am still holding out for an open convention. If Feb 5th breaks right.....there is a good chance.