Posted on 01/14/2008 9:11:02 AM PST by processing please hold
1. Was Barack Obama a Muslim?
The issue of Barack Obama's possible Muslim past has re-emerged with conflicting reports about the presidential candidate's childhood in Islamic Indonesia.
The controversy was initially touched off in early 2007 when several media outlets reported that Obama had attended a radical madrasa, or Islamic school, when he lived in Indonesia.
Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs quickly countered with a statement: "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."
The reports about the radical madrasa turned out to be false. But in March 2007, Gibbs amended his previous statement, telling the Los Angeles Times: "Obama has never been a practicing Muslim," the key word being "practicing."
Obama, his Kansas-born mother and Muslim stepfather moved to Jakarta, Indonesia's capital, in 1967, and Obama lived there from ages 6 to 10.
The Times sent a reporter to Jakarta to investigate Obama's childhood years there, and published an article on March 16 that included these details:
* A close boyhood friend of Obama, Zulfin Adi, said Barack "was a Muslim. He went to the mosque." * Obama's first-grade teacher at a Catholic school, Israella Dharmawan, said: "Barry (Barack's nickname) was Muslim. He was registered as a Muslim because his father was Muslim."
* In the third grade, Obama transferred to a public school, where he was also registered as a Muslim. At the school, Muslim students attended weekly religion lessons about Islam.
* In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Koran and describes the public school as "a Muslim school."
More recently, Middle East Forum director Daniel Pipes wrote on FrontPageMag.com that his research led him to conclude that "Obama was born a Muslim to a non-practicing Muslim father and for some years had a reasonably Muslim upbringing under the auspices of his Indonesian stepfather."
But on Jan. 2, the liberal organization Media Matters for America (MMfA) took issue with Pipes' report, criticized him for relying too heavily on the Times article, which it claimed was "disputed," in an effort to "revive Obama-Muslim falsehood."
Media Matters cited a March 25 article by Kim Baker in the Chicago Tribune that challenged several assertions in the Times story. Barker wrote that boyhood friend Adi "was not certain" about his statements regarding Obama's childhood and that he "only knew Obama for a few months."
The Media Matters Web posting stated: "Additionally, the Tribune reported that 'interviews with dozens of former classmates, teachers, neighbors and friends show that Obama was not a regular practicing Muslim when he was in Indonesia.'"
Media Matters also said that "Pipes did not note that Obama's Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, has been described in the Tribune as 'much more of a free spirit than a devout Muslim.'"
Pipes fired back with a FrontPageMag.com article on Jan. 7, titled "Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam."
Pipes asked if any of the information from the Chicago Tribune article refutes "my analysis, as MMfA contends. It raises questions about two details in the Los Angeles Times account the accuracy of the Catholic school's registration form and the reliability of Zulfin Adi as a source on Obama. But on the larger issue of Obama's religious practices during his Jakarta years, it confirms the Times account."
Pipes concludes: "Therefore, what MMfA calls the 'Obama-Muslim' falsehood' is in fact confirmed by both articles as truthful and accurate."
And he adds: "All this matters, for if Obama once was a Muslim, he is now what Islamic law calls a murtadd (apostate), an ex-Muslim converted to another religion who must be executed. Were he elected president of the Untied States, this status, clearly, would have large potential implications for his relationship with the Muslim world."
As an aside, did you know that Michelle Obama was on the Chicago arm of the CFR?
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Your site is retarded, full of idiot nonsense, and looks like it was made by a high school freshman.
Also, read this:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
FINALLY, all of this kook-tarded dumbassery only makes us look like a bunch of tools.
Obama is wrong on tax cuts, he is wrong on Iraq and national defense, he is wrong on illegal immigration, his is wrong on welfare and entitlements, he is wrong on every position. If we argue our party platform with an ounce of effort, we can destroy him or any other Dem campaign with the power of our ideals and the inescapable reality that smaller government and increased freedom make will make America a better place.
Stop spamming your lame-ass site. We don’t care about you, your e-reputation, or your stupid conspiracy theories.
Do you have a mouse in your pocket because you don't speak for me.
So we need debunked conspiracy theories instead of, you know, being right about Conservatism, freedom, and the promise of America and the US Constitution in order to win an election?
Ok then, whatever floats your boat.
I'm still trying to find their membership roster.
Not having a muslim as president of this country floats my boat.
Can either of you read?
ALL of this misguided OMG OBAMA’S A MUSLIM TERRARIST!!!! has been debunked.
Also, nice way to aviod having to actually support Conservative ideas. Enjoy living in your paranoid fever swamp.
Also, Beckwith, stop pimpin ur site. I’m not afraid of your mighty e-pimp slap, Mr. Internet Tough Guy. lol
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The thing I like about the picture that was posted, was that it was subtle.
People did not even notice the Crescent Moon. (Symbol of Islam.)
You fail to mention, once a muslim, always a muslim. Their rules not mine.
WHAT: On Thursday, October 21, the American Muslim Task Force Political Action Committee (AMT-PAC) will hold a news conference in Washington, D.C., to announce its decision about endorsement of a presidential candidate.
AMT-PAC is an affiliated political action committee of the American Muslim Taskforce on Civil Rights and Elections (AMT). AMT is an umbrella organization representing American Muslim Alliance (AMA), Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), Muslim Alliance of North America (MANA), Muslim American Society (MAS), Muslim Ummah of North America (MUNA), Muslim Student Association (MSA), Project Islamic Hope (PIH), and United Muslims of America (UMA). SEE: http://www.americanmuslimvoter.net/
Muslims are a potential swing-voting bloc in key battleground states such as Ohio and Florida.
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Do you happen to know who this muslim pac decided to back? I'm pretty sure it's bho though because you'll notice 'Project Islamic Hope' backed him. Just look at that list of our enemies backing him.
How many bridges in Brooklyn have YOU bought?
Obama is a supporter of Islamofascism in word and deed. Last week he was still on the phone giving Odinga politically correct "advice." At the same time Obama's Kenyan confreres burned a churchfull of Christians , ALIVE.
Meanwhile the MSM continues to conveniently under report what Odinga and the mostly Muslim Luo are doing in Nairobi: genocide, rape, murder, maimimg male children. So you conveniently think the whole thing is churlish and arcane?Hold out your arm, I have a panga. See how it looks and feels.
A creature you are, created by a lack of genuine information, or do you know how things work in East Africa?
Obama is a fascist, skilful and barely, as it turns out , undercover,and if you don't think so, come up with some salient facts which conflict clearly with Beckwith's summary. But its the tactic of the uninformed to discredit a man like Beckwith, a last resort of the paradigm shiftless to have a hissy fit in substitution for knowledge.
I hope Beckwith continues his journey, and I am extremely grateful for his patriotism . He has done us a great service, and one for which his defamation will be seen as an act of gross ignorance , and his vindication will be born by future events here in the USA, as is the case in Kenya NOW.
So go get bent, or give us your facts my man. I'v seen nothing yet that holds the water of truth from you and your ranting.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm
The Muslim Jesus
Jesus Will Institute Islamic Law
While the Mahdi, as the Caliph (vice-regent) and Imam (leader) of the Muslims is clearly seen as being a superior to Jesus, Jesus is still said to be a leader of the Muslim Community. According to the Islamic traditions, Jesus primary purpose will be to oversee the institution and the enforcement of the Islamic Shariah law all over the world.
Ibn Qayyim mentioned in Manar al-munif that the leader is the Mahdi who will request Jesus to lead the Muslims in prayer. Jesus will remain on the earth, not as a prophet, but as one of the Community (ummah) of Prophet Muhammad. Muslims will follow him as their leader. According to Shalabi, the Mahdi will lead the Muslims in prayer, and Jesus will rule the Muslims according to the Divine Law (Shariah). 8
Jesus, the son of Mary will descend and will lead them judging amongst them according to the holy Quran and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad. 9
Jesus: The Greatest Muslim Evangelist
Islamic tradition teaches that because Jesus will declare himself to be a Muslim, he will lead many Christians to convert to Islam. Regarding those who do not convert to Islam, the Quran states that Jesus will be a witness against them on the Day of Judgment:
There is not one of the People of the Scripture (Christians and Jews) but will believe in him before his death, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be a witness against them. (Surah 4:159)
Commenting on the above verse, Mufti Muhammad Shafi and Mufti Mohammad Rafi Usmani in their book, Signs of the Qiyama [the final judgement] and the Arrival of the Maseeh [the Messiah] explain that the phrase will believe in him before his death means that Christians and Jews will:
confirm that he is alive and has not died and he is not God or the Son of God but (merely) His (Allahs) slave and Messenger, and Isa (Jesus) will testify against those who had called him son of God, the Christians, and those who had belied him, the Jews. 10
Sheikh Kabbani, Chairman of the Islamic Supreme Council of America clearly articulates the Islamic perspective regarding Jesus evangelistic role when He returns.
Like all prophets, Prophet Jesus came with the divine message of surrender to God Almighty, which is Islam. This verse shows that when Jesus returns he will personally correct the misrepresentations and misinterpretations about himself. He will affirm the true message that he brought in his time as a prophet, and that he never claimed to be the Son of God. Furthermore, he will reaffirm in his second coming what he prophesied in his first coming bearing witness to the seal of the Messengers, Prophet Muhammad. In his second coming many non-Muslims will accept Jesus as a servant of Allah Almighty, as a Muslim and a member of the Community of Muhammad...
(We haven’t even scratched the surface!)
Patriotism and the faces of my fathers who sacrificed themselves to battle fascism , both demand it.
I have absolutely no idea...I found it on Google.
I'll just ignore his inane rants when it comes to obama and his connection to islam. He looks like an apologist, appeaser and a more than likely candidate for dhimmitude.
Thank you.
See post 229.
You people are something else.
Do you enjoy being scared out of your minds for no concrete reason, or what?
SPOILERS:
We landed on the moon.
Oswald shot JFK.
There are no space aliens.
Lizardmen don't rule the world.
Barcodes aren't used to control people.
Etc, etc.
lol, if you say so.
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