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To: Beckwith; processing please hold

Can either of you read?

ALL of this misguided OMG OBAMA’S A MUSLIM TERRARIST!!!! has been debunked.

Also, nice way to aviod having to actually support Conservative ideas. Enjoy living in your paranoid fever swamp.

Also, Beckwith, stop pimpin ur site. I’m not afraid of your mighty e-pimp slap, Mr. Internet Tough Guy. lol

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229 posted on 01/14/2008 2:12:58 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Constantine XIII

You fail to mention, once a muslim, always a muslim. Their rules not mine.


231 posted on 01/14/2008 2:20:45 PM PST by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Constantine XIII
Here are some patently incorrect items from the Snopes link you provide:

...no evidence supports a claim that Obama is currently, or ever has been, a Muslim...

Obama's grandfather was a Muslim. Obama's father was a Muslim (and buried in Islamic rites), Obama's stepfather was a Muslim. Obama, by birth and blood is or was a Muslim. He is the only person in the world that knows what he is today and he dissimulates regularly on this matter.

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran.  His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied "menjaji" (recitation of the Quran)."  Classmate Rony Amiris described Obama as being a very devout Muslim, saying, "Barry was previously quite religious in Islam."  Another classmate, Emirsyah Satar, now the CEO of Garuda Indonesia, was quoted as saying, "He (Obama) was often in the prayer room wearing a 'sarong'. 

...schools offered a few hours of religious instruction each week...

According to Tine Hahiyary, one of Obama's teachers and the principal from 1971 throuh 1989, Barry actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his time at the school.  His teacher was named Maimunah and she lived in the Puncak area, the Cianjur Regency.

"I remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)" Tine said.

Our guy in Jakarta writes: "The actual usage of the word 'mengaji' in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue.  "Mengagi" is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia.  To put it quite simply, 'mengaji classes' are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to.  To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes."

"The fact that Obama had attended mengaji classes is well known in Indonesia and has left many there wondering just when Obama is going to come out of the closet."

"As I've stated before, the evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such."

...Obama never stated that he "was once a Muslim"...

Then why was he registered in TWO Jakarta schools as a Muslim?

...Obama communications director Robert Gibbs noted that "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim"...

On March 14th, in a statement to The Times, the Obama campaign offered this statement to correct their previous statement, that was a bold-faced lie:

"Obama has never been a practicing Muslim. The statement added that as a child, Obama had spent time in the neighborhood's Islamic center."

This is a departure from the earlier statement made by the Obama campaign on January 24. "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed Christian who attends the United Church of Christ in Chicago.

In three months Barrack's campaign has gone from describing the U.S. presidential hopeful as never having been a Muslim and never having been raised as a Muslim to now having never having been a practicing Muslim.

What's with the semantics?  Statements from Obama's campaign appear to have evolved, to say the least.

So, TROLL - - Snopes is incorrect - - and I'm still waiting for you to find incorrect information in the Obama File.

244 posted on 01/14/2008 2:48:55 PM PST by Beckwith (Dhimmicrats and the liberal media have chosen sides -- Islamofascism)
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