Uhm...none of the above?
Posted on 01/10/2008 3:40:52 PM PST by Jim Robinson
The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?
Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.
Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.
Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.
Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.
Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.
Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.
So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.
Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.
Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!
Best post I've read in a long time. Yes, a little gridlock can go a long way.
DON’T FORGET THAT MCCAIN & HUCK HAVE SWALLOWED GLOBAL WARMING HOOK, LINE AND SINKER
THen what?
I’ll tell you what. We cling to rush and FR every day for the next 4 years to help get us through the madness.
The horror...the horror!
Then start hoarding firearms, ammunition, and liquor, and spend the next four years in a drunken stupor.
I totally agree. I just played along with the What-If scenario. I am confident in Thompson.
I’m sitting here in shock.
Uhm...none of the above?
Good call.
I notice that Jim Robinson kind of skipped over the whole question of economy, size of Government and economic freedom - ahem, an issue that is THE central difference between a liberal and a conservative and between the GOP and the Democrats. Big Govt vs small Govt, higher tax rates vs tax cuts and more regulation vs less regulation. It's one area where nanny-state RINO McCain who voted against the Bush tax cuts is bad and where tax-and-spend big Govt populist Huckabee is worse.
Ignoring that aspect is a big big mistake - and it is the big mistake that is causing otherwise conservative people to jump on the bandwagon of the non-conservative Huckabee.
A lot of the cultural issues will not get fixed no matter who is President (eg he wont even vote on gay marriage), but the President sets the agenda on the taxation and spending for the Federal Government in a very direct way, almost as direct as his influence as commander-in-chief on foreign affairs. national security need to be the #1 and the economic and Govt needs to be #2 issues to factor in. Then social issues - life, gay marriage, guns, etc. are a #3.
When you do factor it all in, you come out IMHO with a ranking of: Romney (Good on 1,2, W on 3) >> McCain (W on 2,3, Good on 1) > Rudy (Good on 1, G/W on 2, X on 3) > Huckabee (X/Bad on 2, W on 1 (carteresque), Good on 3).
That is the choice that David Keene of the American Conservative Union made. The choice Paul Weyrich, cofounder of Moral Majority made ... Judge Robert Bork, Sen Jim DeMint, and many other conservative leaders.
It's not to say Romney is a Reagan conservative (I call him a smarter more articulate GWB) but he's the best of this top four mixed bag.
I’m with you on that Ron, but I may need and industrial strength clothes pin for my nose.
Also, McCain is responsible for the unconstitutional CFR laws.
I'd like to just stay home and tell others to do the same, to teach the party a lesson, but when I think of troops and families of troops that have put so much into our foreign policy, I cannot allow someone like Obama or Hillary throw away that sacrifice without a fight. I find I just don't have enough spite for the RINO's to do that.
Indeed, and Giuliani too. It’s all part of being “compassionate”. That means more and more regulation if any of them became President.
“I just want to know why the media are choosing the candidates for us!!!”
Huh?!? They want to defeat conservatism same reason as ever.
That’s why they are boosting McCain and Huckabee, worst candidates for conservatives.
If one of the four RINOs wins, FR and/or Rush might not make it four years. If the idea to muzzle us/him comes from the Dims, it might be opposed. McCain already mentioned taking us on before. Would the Dims stand in the way of President McCain (may the fleas of a thousand camels infest his nose hairs)?
“AMNESTY IS FOREVER”
Good slogan.
Folks, #44 is a must-read post! Never forget and never surrender!
If FRed doesn’t get the nomination I will sadly have to cast my vote for Romney. I detest McCain and I agree with Rush and Mark on the Huckster. Couldn’t vote for either of them.
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