If there's no FRed and no Hunter and we're left with the four headless RINOs, then what?

January 10, 2008 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

The question was posed to me last night, if the only two conservatives in the race were to drop out, leaving the hapless RINOs Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and McCain to ward off the Evil Witch of the East then, Jim, what do we do?

Well, I think four issues that most of us conservatives will agree on that are at the top or near the top of our priority lists are National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life should be considered. We can argue all day long on whether or not these guys are constitutionally minded, small government fiscal conservatives, and I don't believe any of them are, but we'll leave that for another day. Let's concentrate on National Defense, Border Security, Guns and Life.

Well, I can see right off that that rules out Rudy, the draft dodging, gun grabbing, sanctuary city abortionist. At least the other three claim to be pro-life, although Romney has been a pro-choice abortionist for all of his elected history until he decided to run for president. I think Romney's pro choice, big government nanny state (RomneyCare) record gives him two big black eyes and should knock him out of any further consideration. That leaves Huckabee and McCain.

Now, all four of these guys are terrible on border security even though they're all claiming now to be border hawks. McCain led the charge for amnesty and the rest fell in line like dutiful RINO troopers. Can't really make a distinction among these guys on the border issue. All fail, though I think most conservatives would rank McCain at or near the bottom.

Guns. Rudy's definitely out. McCain's out. Romney's not much better. Guess Huckabee the big duck hunter outshoots the others in this category.

Rudy fails in all categories, McCain and Romney fail on guns, and all fail on borders. So I guess Huckabee has more to offer over the others at this point as he is at least pro-life and pro-gun.

Now comes national defense. Sorry, but I can't see the draft dodging, gun grabbing, gay loving, cross-dressing, illegal alien pandering abortion activist Rudy Giuliani as a very appealing or effective guy to head up our military, even if he did make some rousing anti-terrorist speeches on 9/11. The "gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military" Romney (no military or national security experience that I know of) doesn't give me goosebumps either.

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain. Now you all know that I like Huckabee as he is a likable fellow, and I hate McCain, but wait. If the whole shebang is going to be decided on which of the still standing Republican wannabes should defend America from the terrorists and the surrendering Democrats, I think I'll have to go with McCain over Huckabee. At least McCain served in the military and has a whole lot more military and national security experience while serving on various committees in the senate than does Huckabee. Huckabee has none. And I doubt Huckabee can defeat Hillary. But then, McCain probably won't either, so guess that leaves plan B. Squat down, tuck your head down between your knees and kiss your ass goodbye.

Here's praying that the only two all around consistently reliable conservatives hang in there and one of them gets the nod.

Go Hunter!! Go, FRed, GO!!

[EGPWS]

The choice between them is like choosing between disease, pestilence, war or famine. (pick your favorite disaster)

You make me feel like I'm going to die a horrible death if a RINO Republican gets elected.

I've voted Republican all my life but have never been registered to ANY political affiliation in 50 years.

[TigersEye]

Ronald Reagan SIGNED/GRANTED amnesty to every illegal when he was president. ... Who is more the RINO, GWB or Reagan, or are they equal RINOs?

That is a false argument that has been knocked down a thousand times.

[Hot Tabasco]

We ban together and take over Mexico for ourselves?

Works for me!!! I get the beach outpost..........

[A_Niceguy_in_CA]

Since there’s a good chance of a brokered convention and no consensus on a conservative candidate, why not draft the most qualified American to protect the republic?

Richard Bruce Cheney

[festus]

I gotta be careful though.

Drudge had a headline the other day that the intel agencies were investigating some emails threatening Paris.

I’m still not sure which one of my emails in particular it was they were fascinated with ;-)

[roses of sharon]

Game....over, best post of the nite, lol.

[EGPWS]

Libertarian --- Hunter -- Fred -- Romney -- Huckabee -- McCain --- Democrat.

That's more palatable. ; )

[stephenjohnbanker]

We are in very tough times, my FRiend!

[lonestar]

Huckabee is a likable fellow...

You think??? A little bit of him goes a loooooong way. I'm already sick of hearing him blab!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

I want the war to continue until each and every Al Qaeda stooge is six feet under or disintegrated by death from the sky. That means in Iraq, in Afghanistan and in any other country necessary to the effort.

Then you're only option is to put a giant shield over Israel and nuke the region. You are not going to kill every last terrorist in the world. It's simply impossible.

Anything less is surrendermonkeyism but you already knew that. If materialism has rto take a hit for us to carry out the responsibility for defending Western Civilization, so be it.

Staying there and fighting for 100 years is complete insanity. You got kids? Are they of draft age? Registered with the Selective Service? Because that's exactly what's going to happen, a friggin' draft.

There's a better way to fight terrorism. Secure the borders, stop allowing Muslim immigrants to come here, investigate CAIR, and stop sticking our noses in the Middle East and let these scumbags kill each other.

Use technology to replace the need for petroleum without downsizing vehicles to pregnant roller skates or castrating the engines as the paleos wish to castrate our military and you will not need to worry about gasoline prices.

You know renewable energies aren't feasible because they're heavily subsidized by the government and there's no domestic production going on. Paul will stop giving energy companies handouts and will let them drill for oil without worrying about stupid environmental regulations.

"Green Party socialists" will be elected to Congress only if paleoPaulie's policy of autosmooch applied to Islamofascist butts becomes a lot more popular than one may realistically imagine.

Why don't you stop writing in nursery rhyme and buy a fricking clue. The majority of the American people want the war to end. Do you and the posters of FR think you're a match for the millions of idiots out there prepared to vote Democrat because they believe they'll bring the troops home? If people supported the war, don't you think the Republicans would be getting more donations and support than the Democrats?

[WOSG]

“No— McCAin/Huckabee COULDN’T work. You’d work. You’d work your -— off for the illegals to freeload off our system of support.”

Good answer.

[TigersEye]

I've voted Republican all my life but have never been registered to ANY political affiliation in 50 years.

That's nice. What is its relevance? In what previous election did we face the prospect of legalizing 20 million aliens who will then be able to legally bring in all their extended family? In what previous election did we face backing away from our foreign committments and allowing terrorism free reign in the world right when it's at its apex? In what previous election, except 2004 when an incumbent ran, did we face no choice but a big government nanny stater?

Please tell me how any of these choices is anything but grim.

[processing please hold]

Europe’s in worse shape than we are. I vote Mexico, it’s closer and warmer.

[ml/nj]

So, again, we're down to Huckabee and McCain.

I cannot believe that the Republicans would pick a candidate that Limbaugh clearly rejects. Huckabee and McCain have no chance.

ML/NJ

[processing please hold]

Trust me when I say I feel your pain. :)

[Mr. Brightside]

This is going to be the hardest choice since I started voting.

And I thought voting for Bob Dole was a hard thing to do.

[festus]

Ok. Mexico first and then France in the second phase.

[Names Ash Housewares]

I seriously doubt how Paul is received by mainstream republicans is going to impact this election.

The man is a libertarian trying to use the republican party to advance himself because the libertarian party cannot do that for him, now libertarians make some good points, but it always comes with a bunch of kooky stuff as usual. It has been that way for decades.

If Paul runs as an independant or back to a libertarian which is a fear I have, he will drag quite a few voters away from beating Hillobama, most especially if we have a RINO republican as the nominee.

Does Paul love his country?

If he does, he should drop out and be endorse Thompson.

At least Fred has a shot still and is no RINO.

Paul has NO chance of winning this even with a fleet of blimps. Just ain’t gonna happen. But he could make a diffence right now and endorse Fred and get a smackdown on the RINOs. So should Hunter.

[roses of sharon]

Instead of just opinion, how about some Campaign info.

http://www.atr.org/content/pdf/2008/jan/010908pr-rudyplus.pdf

01/09/08 Americans For Tax Reform:Rudy Giuliani Tax Cut Plan the Biggest in History and Most Pro-Growth in GOP Presidential Field

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070901faessay86501/rudolph-giuliani/toward-a-realistic-peace.html

For anyone interested in the actually white papers on the campaigns, Foreign Affairs has all the candidates essays, and all conservative tax groups has the candidates papers.

[EGPWS]

What is its relevance?

I'm conservative and I support conservative values.

Not being a registered Republican takes nothing away from my conservative values.