Posted on 01/07/2008 6:18:49 AM PST by xzins
Is Mitt Romney Conservative?
by Gary Glenn Chairman, Campaign for Michigan Families
The Washington, D.C. conservative weekly Human Events last year listed Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney in its Top Ten list of RINOs (Republicans in Name Only), ranking him at number 8 in the nation with the following entry:
"Has said, I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. Supports (homosexual) civil unions and stringent gun laws. After visiting Houston, he criticized the citys aesthetics, saying, This is what happens when you dont have zoning." (Human Events)
Romney should have ranked even higher on the list of RINOs. He famously likes to tell conservative audiences in Iowa and South Carolina that being a conservative Republican in Massachusetts is like being a cattle rancher at a vegetarian convention.
I attended last falls GOP conference in Michigan, where Romney continued his masquerade as a "conservative," even daring to tell the assembled activists: "I am pro-life" -- knowing full well that he does not mean by that term what those listening would think he meant.
Romneys ten-year political career has occurred from his late 40s to his late 50s, yet he asks pro-family conservatives to naively believe that hes just now figuring out his core beliefs.
During that decade, he has insistently supported legal abortion-on-demand. In a televised 1994 campaign debate, Romney said: "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time when my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law and the right of a woman to make that choice. ...Since that time, my mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter, and you will not see my wavering on that." (Boston Globe)
His 2002 gubernatorial campaign web site stated: "As Governor, Mitt Romney would protect the current pro-choice status quo in Massachusetts. No law would change. The choice to have an abortion is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the governments." (Archive)
Romneys response to the National Abortion Rights Action Leagues 2002 candidate survery: I respect and will protect a womans right to choose. This choice is a deeply personal one. Women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not mine and not the governments. The truth is, no candidate in the governors race in either party would deny women abortion rights." (Notably, Romney refused to answer Massachusetts Citizens for Lifes candidate questionnaire.) (Boston Globe)
Not surprisingly, Romneys clearly stated support for Roe and "a womans right to choose" -- i.e., abortion on demand -- earned him the endorsement of the pro-abortion Republican Majority for Choice PAC.
He was also endorsed, twice, by the homosexual "Log Cabin Republicans," the same group that in 2004 spent $1 million attacking President Bush for his support of a Marriage Protection Amendment.
Romney believes the Boy Scouts should allow openly homosexual Scoutmasters: "I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation." (Web today)
He endorses Ted Kennedys federal "gay rights" legislation. He endorses taxpayer-financed same-sex benefits for the homosexual partners of state employees, and even attacked some Democratic legislators for not supporting such government benefits.
According to the Associated Press, he has appointed at least two openly homosexual lawyers to state judgeships, one a board member of the Lesbian & Gay Bar Association. Imagine how that will fly in Republican presidential primaries in the South, the prospect of a president with a record of appointing homosexual activists to the bench. (See copy of gubernatorial news release below.)
In 2002, before the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court legalized so-called homosexual "marriage," Romney denounced a preemptive state Marriage Protection Amendment prohibiting homosexual "marriage," civil unions, or same-sex public employee benefits as "too extreme," even after being advised by the media that his own wife and son had just signed a petition to place it on the ballot. (Boston Phoenix)
Now, as he postures to run for president, Romney travels to Iowa and Michigan and South Carolina to claim hes "pro-life" and brag about fighting homosexual "marriage," saying that at age 59, his position on such issues has "evolved."
(No flip-flop so far, however, on his stated support for homosexual Scoutmasters, forcing taxpayers to fund spousal benefits for the "partners" of state employees involved in homosexual relationships, or Kennedys federal "gay rights" legislation.)
Regardless, most pro-family voters dont believe in the theory of evolution -- including as it applies to politicians, and especially when the alleged "evolution" seems so conveniently timed to produce political benefit.
Gov. Romney can tell all the cattle-rancher-at-a-vegetarian-convention jokes he wants about Massachusetts. But theyre going to fall flat when social conservatives learn -- and they will -- that his long-term record on abortion and elements of homosexual activists political agenda has been that of Vegetarian in Chief.
The link is great. Used for a Ron Paul training manual?
LCR were in an alliance with Stonewall. Stonewall was in a parade that NAMBLA joined. Romney was endorsed by LCR years back (but they hate him now). Therefore, Romney supports NAMBLA.
Did you not study logic? Or, are you part of the conspiracy?
I’m not part of the conspiracy because I wear a tin foil hat for protection.
>I feel that all people should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation
That is interesting. IF that was Romney’s view, he opposed the legal position taken by his Church in supporting the BSA. Anything to back the quote up?
Yes. There are earlier posts this thread that give links.
That’s my biggest problem on Romney - never know where he REALLY stands on things. He SAYS that he now believes in certain things (and admits that he has changed), but HAS HE?
Nonetheless, he is a good family man with no skeletons, and he has a solid record of fiscal discipline.
No personal behavior skeletons....he has plenty of policy position skeletons and his crew is trying like crazy to get them buried again.
But that won’t work.
There’s no way that I want a guy who believes in abortion, gun control, the gay agenda, gays in our military, and illegal amnesty to be in charge of the country.
I simply won’t ever vote for him. Period.
>Theres no way that I want a guy who believes in abortion, gun control, the gay agenda, gays in our military, and illegal amnesty to be in charge of the country
Well, first Romney does not have a track record of favoring the illegal alien situation. So knock that off the list. And Romney’s personal beliefs are opposed to abortion (always have been), as well as disfavoring homosexual activities. What is at issue is whether he believes it legal to discriminate against gays.
Romney has never broken a campaign promise. So he seems like he’s a man who can be trusted. If he had a track record of saying one thing and doing another, I would share your concern.
He has supported amnesty. He has supported the gay agenda (and still does.) He has a huge history of support for abortion. (And I don’t believe a politician who says, “Well...personally, I don’t like it BUT...”)
Romney is a radical social liberal. I have all the cites to prove it to a reasonable conservative.
But keep foolishly attacking Romney so we're stuck with Rudy who is running on a pro-choice platform, or McCain or Huck, or Hillary and Obama. That would be far better for conservatives.
I now inform you that you are too far from reality.
The above statement is an outragous lie. No radical social Liberal runs on a Reagan pro-life conservative platform. Keep it up and conservatives will be stuck with true radical social Liberals, like Hillary or Obama.
Go to the link at the top of your page entitled “RomneyTruthFile.”
In it you will find Romney’s record on social issues. He is pro-abortion, pro-gay agenda, pro-gays in the military, anti-gun, pro-amnesty....
The data there. Read it for yourself.
Just because he said at the start of this campaign: “Er...excuse me..but...uhhmmm...I don’t like my life long political positions anymore” — that doesn’t mean I should suddenly consider him a died-in-the-wool conservative.
He’s a radical social liberal. His record proves it.
Only a moron could believe Romney is pro life.
I will be surprised if you get any reply.............
THere were Romney’s in Mexico, being from a Romney from Ill. Is there fact to this accusation or is this an other hit and run ?
You need to 'splain Lucy....
George Romney’s Father was Gaskill Romney born in St George, Utah. His Mother Anna Pratt was born in Salt Lake City.
“And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”[
There is currently debate concerning the definition of “natural born citizen.” The main focus of this debate is whether or not children born to Americans overseas should be considered eligible for the Presidency. Several main candidates have sought the office who were born outside the United States (e.g., George Romney was born in Mexico to U.S. parents, Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory, and John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents). Barry Goldwater’s case among these three is unique in that although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully incorporated territory of the United States (unlike Panama and overseas territories which were/are unincorporated), making it debatable whether or not he was born “outside” the United States; it is also unique in that Arizona was later admitted as a state. None of these candidates was elected, so the issue was never fully addressed. However, McCain is currently seeking the 2008 Republican nomination for President.
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