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US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists
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Posted on 01/04/2008 2:12:20 PM PST by Sub-Driver

US 'doomed' if creationist president elected: scientists Jan 4 05:29 PM US/Eastern A day after ordained Baptist minister Mike Huckabee finished first in the opening round to choose a Republican candidate for the White House, scientists warned Americans against electing a leader who doubts evolution.

"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming," University of Michigan professor Gilbert Omenn told reporters at the launch of a book on evolution by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS).

"I would worry that a president who didn't believe in the evolution arguments wouldn't believe in those other arguments either. This is a way of leading our country to ruin," added Omenn, who was part of a panel of experts at the launch of "Science, Evolution and Creationism."

Former Arkansas governor Huckabee said in a debate in May that he did not believe in evolution.

A poll conducted last year showed that two-thirds of Americans believe in creationism, or the theory that God created humans at a single point in time, while 53 percent believe that humans developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life -- the theory of evolution.

Around a quarter of Americans said they believe in both.

The evolution versus creationism debate has crept into school classrooms and politics, where it is mainly conservative Republicans who espouse the non-scientific belief.

"If our country starts to behave irrationally whereas all the other countries coming up and chasing us (to take over as the world leaders in science and technology) behaving rationally, we are doomed," Omenn said.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; evolution; gilbertomenn; kookscientist; leftwingwackjob; phonylogic
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To: ValerieTexas

Not only that, but the conservative that scared him so much was Elizabeth Hasselbeck! She is very much from the “lets show liberals that conservatives can be nice people” school of conservatism. I shudder to think what his reaction to Michelle Malkin or (oh the horror) Ann Coulter would be.

The equivalent for a conservative would be appearing on a show with three conservative women and Kirsten Powers (she’s about the same distance from the center as Hasselbeck).


181 posted on 01/07/2008 1:58:17 PM PST by murdoog
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To: Sub-Driver

The President can believe that we all came here from Flying Saucers for all I care, as long as he doesn’t stifle scientific inquiry and education, and keep his religious ideas on said subjects to himself.


182 posted on 01/07/2008 1:59:32 PM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Sub-Driver

Theory is fact. Hmmm, why do we need two words instead of one?


183 posted on 01/07/2008 5:20:17 PM PST by TradicalRC (Let's make immigration Safe, Legal and Rare.)
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To: Bosh Flimshaw
Stupid "scientists" with their precious "scientific method" and ridiculous "evidence" for their "theories." What good has any of that ever done this country?

Let's see. The polio vaccine. Antibiotics. Electricity. Flight. Telephones. X-ray diagnosis. Radio and television. Plumbing. Air conditioning and central heating. Hybridized crops. Mechanized agriculture. Internal combustion engine. Computers. The Internet. Stupid "scientists." Preposterous scientific "method."

184 posted on 01/08/2008 7:15:03 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD

(that was my point)


185 posted on 01/08/2008 7:45:16 AM PST by Bosh Flimshaw
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To: Bosh Flimshaw

I know! I am just so appalled by this thread that I had to elaborate.


186 posted on 01/08/2008 7:47:24 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Sub-Driver
"The logic that convinces us that evolution is a fact is the same logic we use to say smoking is hazardous to your health or we have serious energy policy issues because of global warming,"

Smoking yes. Global warming as scientific fact? Ridiculous!

187 posted on 01/08/2008 7:57:29 AM PST by montag813
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To: Sub-Driver

doomed!?!

naah...we’ll evolve

...riiight?


188 posted on 01/08/2008 8:48:54 AM PST by woollyone (entropy extirpates evolution and conservation confirms the Creator blessed forever.)
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To: Doc Savage
Enough of the dinosaur specials on TV where an authoritative voice describes how amphibians and arthropods “evolved”. Give me the biochemical pathways and describe them fully and completely. What? No can do? Too bad!

You can start with the 7,608 articles available here for your perusal at no charge.

When you have finished reading those, you can either plug in another search request and pull up any of the other 85,651 articles addressing evolution, or proceed to the graduate library at your local university.

Or you can watch dinosaur specials on TV.

189 posted on 01/08/2008 10:10:10 AM PST by atlaw
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To: Cicero
Well, I happen to agree that Huckabee is a nut job. But our kids are lagging in the sciences NOT because not enough Darwinism is taught in the schools, but because the NEA has dumbed them down.

Sad twisted and even laughable is that the methodology used in public education is the system of those allll knowing fruit loops under their deception of Darwinism. This bunch are first in line at the welfare trough thus it is only the thing of compassion to brand all those without their high IQ as needing them to survive.

190 posted on 01/08/2008 10:14:36 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: spunkets

No problem. However, 104.5 degrees is the “distorted” angle; 109 degrees is the “ideal” angle. Please do not ask me to explain this. :)


191 posted on 01/12/2008 12:37:33 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR
Oxygen is electronegative, so it grabs excess electron density. That gets contained in the 2 other sp3 orbitals which bulge and flatten some to put more electron density on the O, and the angle opens to minimize repulsion. That spreading results in the H-O-H angle to decrease, else the effect of the electron withdrawal would be less.

Sorry, couldn't help myself. :)

192 posted on 01/12/2008 3:22:55 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: GreenOgre
What planet did you arrive from? Please tell me how replacing science with superstition is going to make our schools better.

Yeah, all that matter just appeared out of nowhere, science proves it... /sarc

193 posted on 01/12/2008 3:33:52 PM PST by LowOiL (Duncan Hunter .. accept no conservative substitute... it can cause cancer of the heart...)
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To: spunkets

Are you sure your name isn’t Flip Wilson??? :)


194 posted on 01/12/2008 9:28:24 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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