Posted on 01/04/2008 4:36:45 AM PST by Liz
Hillbillies picked a fellow hillbilly, and Democrats picked a HUSSEIN!!! The world IS upside down!!
‘Bill Bennett had some excellent comments on the subject. Said that Obama not once used the race issue, conducted himself with dignity and put Sharpton and Jackson to shame (I’m paraphrasing). Donna Brazille was sitting right next to him and did not have a chance to speak because Bennett went long.’
I didn’t catch Bennett last night, kept switching between Fox and MSNBC.
But the MSM’s theme is ‘historic turnout’ not ‘historic first’ which tells you they are still in the tank for Clinton, given they are repeating her exact spin.
For one thing, the format isn't exactly representative of how the country will vote in a general election. Secondly, recent history indicates that candidates who WIN Iowa hardly ever WIN their parties' nominations anyway.
One thing worth noting, though, is that turnout was very high -- which to me indicates: (1) enthusiasm about one or more candidates, or (2) a sense of serious discontent among voters. The first point can't possibly be the case, since both the Republican and Democratic fields are littered with abject mediocrities -- some of whom have such miserable political qualities about them that they couldn't even lead someone out of a burning house.
Please know I agree with the above sentiment 100%. But I caution, Freepers tend to be of a like mind even if that mind is usually the correct mind. But sometimes, like Rush Limbaugh who I adore, we wishful think.
So I wishful think that this Iowa thing means something. I mean...come on...this Hillary woman had name recognition, she's got a testicle lockbox, we all know that. She's got money up the wazoo and don't forget all the Chinese money this woman gets. No way was her campaign bypassing Iowa. The ladies at the beauty parlor won't know all the dynamics, all they'll know is that Hillary Clinton came in THIRD, behind Obama and John Edwards of all people.
Seriously, I think this is a MAJOR MAJOR setback for Hillary. THIRD, folks. Not second...THIRD, and third by a big margin. Damn, she'd be down there with Richardson if she didn't have the name recognition and all that Chicom money.
But I dare not get happy and hope this portends anything. The Clintons never go away.
What does Hillary think of America? The answer is lying on the floor.
I really am hoping to see her get the nomination.
An see the senator from NY come totally undone before our eyes during the debates having to actually answer some tough questions that will need to be answered.
Question for madame candidate: You and your husband constantly maintain that you and other "Rich Folk" like you are not paying enough taxes. My question to you is: Do you place any of your income into tax shelters, and if so why?
I'm sure we could come up with thousands of questions to be asked of the senator and watch her shrill harpy responses. Unfortunately, the fun won't happen if she doesn't get the nomination.
The odds at this juncture, even though it's early on, the 'beast won't win her parties nomination.
She's toast ... and I suspect they know it already.
For a minute there I though she was “ready to lead” by vacuuming. LOL.
Yes, the big story of the night is Hillary’s loss. Not even 2nd place. Thats embarrassing.
Those questions can be raised whether she’s a candidate or not.
Quite the opposite, in fact. On the Democrat side, Kerry won both Iowa and the nomination in '04 and Gore won both Iowa and the nomination in '00. On the other side of the aisle, the last GOPer to win Iowa and not win the party's nomination was Bob Dole in '88.
I suspect that the Huckabee base is not anything like coterminous with the Limbaugh audience.
The Huckabee base isn't conservative. Thus, it's unlikely to pay much attention to Limbaugh.
An earlier example of “turning out the airhead vote” was Jesse Ventura’s gubinatorial victory in Minnesota. These voters only showed up one time and put Jesse in the Statehouse.
I think you are exactly right, as quoted above.
I'd been puzzled these last few days as to why Huckabee was virtually ignoring Rush Limbaugh's criticism of him. By me, Rush is a very prominent conservative and I'd think all candidates would get concerned by any criticism by Rush.
Yet Huckabee, over and over, played the country boy, golly gee, dumbbell. Just this morning I overheard Huck saying he still doesn't know what Rush's issues are with him!
Huckabee knows full well what Rush takes exception to. It started with a member of Huck's staff, allegedly, calling Rush Limbaugh a DC Insider, that he was naught but an entertainer, that he just repeated the GOP talking points. Rush took exception to this, natch because it doesn't describe Rush at all. So the Huck campaign lied like a rug and said it wasn't them.
They sent the aw-shucks Huckster out and all he kept doing was pleading ignorance.
Welp, now I know why. Because that fake description of Rush was EXACTLY what the Huck campaign wanted Huck's base to hear.
Which brings me back to what you said and how I agree with you because there's just no other way a GOP candidate could survive the criticism Rush was throwing at Huck the last couple of days. Because Huck's voters don't listen to Rush, they simply must not.
If I'm wrong, and thus you yon commenter, than Rush HAS lost his touch because he's been going after Huck with both barrels. Which Huck, and McCain who's also been under attack by Rush, both deserve.
“these people are survivors, a la Don Corleone.”
Yeah, for sure they are survivors. Unfortunately, those who get in their way, tend to not be so. Anyone remember Vince Foster? I hope Obama’s Secret Service team has it’s “A” game going. They should keep on special alert for any ex Arkansas State Troopers sniffing around for sure...
Democratic Presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. campaigns with her daughter, Chelsea at a rally in Nashua, N.H. Friday, Jan. 4, 2008. (AP Photo/Elise Amendola)
On second thought, maybe I’m wrong . . . but Bill Clinton got something like 3% of the vote in the 1992 Iowa caucuses, and historically these are very weak “victories” by the winners of these votes. It’s rare for even a strong front-runner to get more than 40% of the vote — even in years where the field has a number of candidates who don’t have a chance in hell of winning the nomination (Pat Buchanan, Steve Forbes, Pat Robertson, etc.).
Bingo!!
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