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Why do Freepers Support a Different Candidate than Polltakers?
1/1/2008 | me

Posted on 01/01/2008 4:07:20 PM PST by amordei

I support Fred Thompson as do a far majority of FreeRepublic members. However, polls of Iowa voters, NH voters, national voters, etc. all place Fred way back in the pack. Why is that? Is it bad polling, e.g., oversampling non-Republicans, unlikely voters, etc.? I just can't believe that we are that far from standard Republican opinion. If we are, may God have mercy on us all. ;->


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KEYWORDS: fredthompson; thompsontruthfile
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To: Freedom4US

Polling isn’t for gauging public opinion so much than shaping it.

Agreed. But here’s something to contemplate: IF most of these poll results are derived from telephone polling, consider the fact that most people under the age of 30 do not have land-lines. They have cell phones, and as a result of this, they aren’t being polled. Some have even gone so far as to suggest that this demographic includes most people under the age of 40. Free Republic seems to have quite a wide age representation so I’m not sure what this really means. But, I think it’s significant.


61 posted on 01/01/2008 4:39:24 PM PST by Paisan
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To: amordei

We’re smarter.


62 posted on 01/01/2008 4:39:32 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: amordei

Most of these polls are biased and innaccurate. They do not use proper sampling technique and are sponsored by MSM companies that are strongly biased against conservatives. I have never in my life been contacted by a polling organization and nobody I know has either. I have never heard of any “real people” ever being contacted by these MSM sponsored polls.


63 posted on 01/01/2008 4:40:06 PM PST by detective
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To: Graybeard58
I spend practically every day of my life in Illinois, which is the same thing except I believe Iowa is red and Illinois couldn't be any bluer.

What about Illinois without Cook County?

64 posted on 01/01/2008 4:41:18 PM PST by Lonely Bull
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To: Lonely Bull; Graybeard58
What about Illinois without Cook County?

Significantly saner.

65 posted on 01/01/2008 4:43:34 PM PST by unspun (God save us from egos -- especially our own.)
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To: Yaelle
My "right side" contains nothing.

Go to your preferences and turn on "subscription bar". It drove me nuts trying to find it.

66 posted on 01/01/2008 4:43:44 PM PST by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: amordei

We’re all Freepers and have been drawn here due to our conservatism and being around like-minded folks. Consequently, most of us will root for the most conservative candidates.

But, because we’re conservatives and associate with other Freepers, we tend to see things thru a particular lens. Not unlike folks who spend little time outside the beltway and see things thru that lens.

Unfortunately, the vast unwashed masses don’t spend much time watching cable news shows, Freepeing or living in the beltway. They get their views fed to them in soundbites by a biased media and an active entertainment industry. They also are influenced by unions and educators.

It’s our job to be activists to spread our $0.02.


67 posted on 01/01/2008 4:44:51 PM PST by umgud (no more subprime politicians)
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To: amordei
major polls driven by MSM
MSM democratic shell
FReepers read,discuss,expose MSM
FReepers grow, MSM dies
68 posted on 01/01/2008 4:45:08 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: amordei

Freepers are better informed that the average person.


69 posted on 01/01/2008 4:45:21 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Yaelle

Go to the Forum main page and scroll down.


70 posted on 01/01/2008 4:46:33 PM PST by growlingrizzlybear
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To: amordei

Who cares what a pollster thinks? Who cares what 10 percent of Iowans think?


71 posted on 01/01/2008 4:46:58 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: amordei

“Why is that?”

sheep...and that works in all ways....


72 posted on 01/01/2008 4:48:24 PM PST by dakine
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To: amordei

Yup, it’s odd...for instance, the polls show McCain with numbers as good as Thompson’s but here on FR you could not elect McPain to be graveyard shift admin moderator.


73 posted on 01/01/2008 4:51:41 PM PST by Bobalu (I guess I done see'd that varmint for the last time....)
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To: amordei

I think you have a good point. I know a lot of people who used to donate to the Republican party, and then the party didn’t stand up for things they believed in so they quit donating to the party. They donate to individual candidates that they believe in. Like Pat Toomey versus Arlen Specter, that one blew a fuse with me. President Bush campaigning for Specter against a conservative. He may have had his reasons, but conservatives didn’t like it. Also the immigration bill and President Bush’s flippant attitude about it.

He’s not worthless, but he’s not a conservative and I am.

I posted this thread a while back:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1936827/posts

It was about polling methods and whether there were problems since so many no longer have landlines and just cell phones. Who is going to want to use up cell phone minutes to answer a bunch of polling questions? And if they do it online it can be spammed. I don’t know how they can do a poll these days and have it be accurate.

But in 2004, I thought the polls were wrong, and they were a lot closer than I thought they were. I want to believe the polls are wrong, but I am preparing myself for disappointment in case they are right.


74 posted on 01/01/2008 4:52:20 PM PST by daylilly
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To: amordei

‘Cause people here are maybe 10 times more informed?


75 posted on 01/01/2008 4:53:14 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: amordei
Here are a couple of thoughts FWIW. Fred is scoring first based on Free Republic members that voted in the poll. Not all FReepers voted. Then you would have to see what percentage of conservatives are Freepers. Free Republic while being the largest conservative site is after all only one web site. Many conservatives don't even know about it, some don't even have access to the internet, etc. Then the Republican Party is a big tent and not all Republicans are conservative as we know.

In any event I suspect you would find that the FReeper voting results that show Fred on top are not an accurate sample of the Republican Party as the focus of the web site is on conservatism and not any particular party (I had assumed most FReepers already knew this).

76 posted on 01/01/2008 4:58:15 PM PST by plain talk
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To: amordei
This is why the promising candidate of last summer turned the party upside down. Never was motivated to lead.

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77 posted on 01/01/2008 4:59:43 PM PST by nckerr ("A freeper since 2000 and Active Duty Soldier since 1995!")
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To: SpaceBar

Misinformation works. Timmy Russert’s Florida fiasco was a “Gore won...You lost...you repubs can forget about voting now”.


78 posted on 01/01/2008 5:01:06 PM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: amordei

How is it that Pollsters come up with so varied results??????


79 posted on 01/01/2008 5:02:20 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Number 1 FredHead)
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To: amordei
there’s a difference twixt republican and Conservative
80 posted on 01/01/2008 5:03:13 PM PST by stylin19a
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